Posted on 08/01/2010 7:36:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It means that every Republican candidate from now till November will have to field birth certificate questions. And it means they're going to have to come up with vague answers that alienate the least number of voters.
Sad that candidates cannot even take a stand on the fundamental issue of following the rules, or the “rule of law.”
The battle is already over if (since) we are willing to let those oppposed to constitutional government constantly redefine the battleground, and fight over the “issues” in the context they determine.
Losers, all.
Your belief is incorrect. Go look at the pdf's of the document for yourself. If you had done so, you would know that it is a renewal application filed in 1968 to renew a passport originally issued in 1965. There is no evidence she every held a passport before 1965.
because Obama’s family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born
Not a single member of his family has stated this.
and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there.
One or two members of Kenya's parliament, who have no direct knowledge of his birth, have made off-hand remarks to this effect in political speaches. Given that these poeple have no special access to information about his birth, I don't see why you would assume they knew what they were talking about.
Nope. The original passport in question was issued in 1965, and the pdf posted above is form 1968. Back then, a passport was good for 3 years, and then could be renewed for two years.
If thats true, she had a passport before she gave Birth to our Natioinal nightmare.
The evidence suggests otherwise.
What evidence?
Yeah well how convenient that the documents that could put that to rest one way or the other are missing. Do you think they are missing because they could support your and Obama's position?
To a conspiracy theorist, the absence of evidence supporting the conspiracy is always viewed as part of the conspiracy itself.
Which is why Obama loves this issue and wouldn't want it to go away. Birthers are working for his benefit.
Yep. Nothing makes Democrat candidates smile more than watching their Republican opponents squirm under the spotlight on the birth certificate issue while they attempt to give stuttering, mealy-mouthed answers they can hopefully back-pedal away from.
No wonder Ken Buck called birthers "dumba**es".
The 1968 passport renewal application that was recently made public pursuant to Apuzzo's FOIA request.
That suggests nothing other than that a passport was issued to SAD in 1965. How do you think it suggests no passport was issued prior?
Chris Strunk is the author and recipient of the FOIA request as posted at Apuzzo.
And to law enforcement it's known as "obstruction of justice".
Yes, but we know it couldn't have been issued persuant to a renewal application, since in those days passports could only be renewed once.
How do you think it suggests no passport was issued prior?
It means that she filed an initial passport application in 1965. Given her age, that is suggestive, though I admit not conclusive, evidence that it was her first passport.
ROFLMAO....get real she was a virgin too I suppose? If they only showed her 1971 application that means she didn't have one before then? Why are the only documents missing the ones that could prove she did or did not have a prior passport and whether Obie was on her passport or not? Coincidence? NO IT IS A CRIME.
And for a govt attorney to state that they might have been destroyed is an outright falsehood unsupported and lacking by a citation of the administrative rules concerning destruction because the rules state retention is mandatory for 100 years. Documents are missing and a coverup is feebly attemped but has the Department of State reported it as a crime and started and investigation? WHY NOT? is everyone corrupt or incompetent in the Obama administration? Magic Bullet all over again.
If they think their will not be a Warren Type Commision with uncorruptable investigators (this time)they are mistaken. They are buying time to implement their plans they cannot hide forever unless they can control everything. That is apparently their plan.
The US and Hawaiian governments are not believable, you know it and I know it and more and more people every day are realizing it.
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She turned 18 in November of 1960, so it's highly unlikely she applied for a passport before 1961. It is also highly unlikely she applied for a passport between 1961 and 1965, since her 1965 application is not a renewal.
It is, of course, theoretically possible that she applied for her first passport in 1961, that it expired in 1964, and then she applied for a new in 1965, but that scenario seems pretty implausible to me, though I agree it cannot be conclusively ruled just yet.
If they only showed her 1971 application that means she didn't have one before then?
Of course not, since it is established that she traveled abroad before then.
Why are the only documents missing the ones that could prove she did or did not have a prior passport and whether Obie was on her passport or not?
All that is aknowledged to be missing are her passport applications. The government has not stated that the records showing when and where she was issued passports are missing. Unfortunately, Apuzzo did not ask for these records in his FOIA request. He only requested her applications.
The ObamaConspiracy webmaster has requested these records, and I suspect they will be released in due time, and I'd be willing to bet quite a sum that they will show the 1965 passport was her first.
Coincidence? NO IT IS A CRIME.
So which law is being violated, exactly?
And for a govt attorney to state that they might have been destroyed is an outright falsehood unsupported and lacking by a citation of the administrative rules concerning destruction because the rules state retention is mandatory for 100 years.
Please provide a citation for the rules you mention so I can read them for myself. I don't believe they say way what you think they say.
If they think their will not be a Warren Type Commision with uncorruptable investigators (this time)they are mistaken.
We'll see who's mistaken, but I'm not putting my money on you.
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