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Dan Quayle: Don't let the tea party go Perot
The Washington Post ^ | April 4, 2010 | Vice President Dan Quayle

Posted on 04/01/2010 11:32:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Like many influential causes before it, the "tea party" movement appeared on the scene uninvited by the political establishment. Democrats in the White House and in Congress recognize it for what it is -- a spontaneous and pointed response to the Obama agenda -- but some Republican leaders still aren't sure what to make of it, as tea partiers have risen on their own and stirred up trouble in GOP primaries.

Sometimes in politics it's easier to recognize foes than friends, and this may be why Democrats have been quicker to figure out the movement's potential. They know that in November's midterm elections, Republicans will gain mightily from a growing discontent with the administration, which has disappointed the independent voters who made the difference for Barack Obama in 2008.

A close look at the tea party membership will find many of those independents who went for Obama but now regret it. After sweeping into power, Democrats assumed they had redrawn the political map forever, and they took this as a mandate to remake the federal government forever. To the surprise of millions of their supporters, they plowed ahead with federal control over health care and new spending financed by a decade of trillion-dollar deficits. Along the way, they have tried to brush off the Republican congressional minority as little more than spectators to one-party rule.

But across America, millions of people decided not to be silent. Prompted only by their convictions, they united against the unjustifiable expansion of federal power. So successful is the tea party movement that there is speculation it might launch a political party. Though nearly three-quarters of tea party supporters identify themselves as Republicans, according to a recent Quinnipiac University poll, 40 percent of them are open to voting for a third-party candidate of their own.

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2010; congress; danquayle; democrats; obama; obamacare; potatoe; taxes; teaparty
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To: blackbart.223

Did it ever occur to you we are being played for suckers by both sides? It is only a matter of degree.


most excellent point.


41 posted on 04/02/2010 12:29:10 AM PDT by chasio649 (37-21)
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To: blackbart.223

Who is “we”?


42 posted on 04/02/2010 12:29:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So Dan Quayle brought about Ross Perot?"

He didn't. Perot was no doubt a loose cannon. But that was not my point. Perot would have been a non issue if he had been handled correctly at the time. He should have been pointed out as the crackpot he was. Didn't happen.

43 posted on 04/02/2010 12:36:47 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Allegra

I saw Dan’s son Ben on with Neil Cavuto the other afternoon
on FOX Ben Quayle is running for Congress in AZ. Sounded
like a person who may have a future.


44 posted on 04/02/2010 12:39:49 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Who is “we”?"

A manner of speaking. Please don't nit pick. It isn't usefull.

45 posted on 04/02/2010 12:40:28 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: chasio649
"most excellent point."

Thank you.

46 posted on 04/02/2010 12:42:20 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly!!!!

Why does the GOP believe that they can tell their base what to do? It is most certainly the other way around, and the quicker they realize that the quicker we can all get down to kicking butt. If the GOP continues to bark order to the base about who to support then they will be sorely mistaken.

I already voted Republican in the last election, look what it got me. If I would have voted 3rd party at least I could tell you who I voted for and feel good about it. Now if the rest of us did that then the GOP would be running as the third party.


47 posted on 04/02/2010 12:43:10 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You all should view the Quayle-Gore (and Stockdale) debate that took place in 1988. Quayle pwned Gore in that debate. He is no simpleton. And his words in this piece should be heeded. His affection for RINOmny aside, he is exactly correct that if the Tea Party splinters off from the GOP, it will hand the 2012 election to 0bama.

HOWEVER, it is not the Tea Partiers who need to take his advice. It is the leadership of the GOP that must not veer off and take the party the way of GHW Bush.. into that go-along-to-get-along rut the GOP always gets pulled into. The Republicans should not be trying to compromise with the Democrats. They should be trying to defeat them and their agenda... and defeat them soundly.

The way to do this is to support the tea partiers and follow their lead. This will mean curtains for the Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Mitt Romney types. But it will elevate the Jim DeMint and John Kasich types who understand the US Constitution and strive to uphold it.

48 posted on 04/02/2010 12:47:17 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush41 and Quayle were a disaster for the
Republican party


49 posted on 04/02/2010 12:49:07 AM PDT by element92
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To: pennyfarmer
"I already voted Republican in the last election, look what it got me. If I would have voted 3rd party at least I could tell you who I voted for and feel good about it. Now if the rest of us did that then the GOP would be running as the third party."

Damned if we do and damned if we don't it seems to me. I wish I had the answer to all of this.

50 posted on 04/02/2010 12:50:37 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: element92
"Bush41 and Quayle were a disaster for the Republican party"

Not to mention McCain.

51 posted on 04/02/2010 12:53:33 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

And Bob Dole (remember him?)
I am definitely ready for Sarah Palin.


52 posted on 04/02/2010 12:56:07 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dragnet2; 2ndDivisionVet

Patty Murray is also a Senator...and a bag of rocks has more intellectual firepower.

In my own state, John McCain seems to have a fine resume, provided one doesn’t read too closely. While no where near as stupid as Murray, I wouldn’t take his advice on how to spit, which may be one of the few things he knows how to do well.

There are plenty of folks who get elected who couldn’t lead an angry cat out of a paper sack. How they get in Congress or any position of responsibility eludes me. Why anyone would consider ‘election’ as evidence of having opinions worth listening to eludes me as well...


53 posted on 04/02/2010 12:57:02 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Ever since 1988, the conservatives in the Republican party have been paid lip service, and betrayed time after time. If the Republicans truly want to be elected, they had better find some people with conservative records to run as candidates, or continue to be the minority party.

I am sick of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.


54 posted on 04/02/2010 1:03:49 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I read enough to realize Dan still doesn't get it. Perot did not cost Poppy the election. Poppy's policies {abandonment and tearing down of the Reagan Legacy} cost Poppy and him the election. Dan, Dan, Dan, don't give the voters cause to go to a third party and the GOP will likely get their votes. Continue take the Conservative votes for granted as the GOP has done since 1992 and ??? well you'll still be writing articles on why Poppy lost.

The threat of a third party can not and should not be removed or taken out of consideration especially not now. To do so gives the Green Light to RINO's who at this point need to be fearing for their seats and be sent back home to the private sector replaced by Conservatives and by Conservatives I mean better Conservatives than Rockefeller Republicans.

Business as usual can't continue for this nation. Business as usual can not continue in the GOP now either if it is to survive as a party. If the GOP like the DEMS continues to refuse to listen then yes it deserves to be replaced. Republicans replaced Whigs in short order remember?

Mr Quale you could have possibly been POTUS after Poppy's second term. Poppy Bush cost you that. If you can't see the policy blunders he made and admit to them as being the reason many voted Independent then you are part of the problem not the solution. It was Gerald Ford when talkng I think it was to George Bush JR about Conservatives said "Where else can they go?" Was Ford taking a long nap during the 1996 elections? They can and do go elsewhere. It is the job and duty of GOP leadership to change course and agenda so they don't. Making loyality demands on voters who have had enough especially when the favor was not returned in kind anytime after 1994 gets you and the GOP no where.

55 posted on 04/02/2010 1:04:41 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I am definitely ready for Sarah Palin."

She is a breath of fresh air. Too bad she is associated with McCain. None the less I would give her a chance. But maybe it should go deeper than that. How about we distrust any "leader" other than ourselves. It just might work in the long run.

56 posted on 04/02/2010 1:05:02 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: element92

Their administration... I was hopeful at first...then I realized we didn’t have Reagan anymore... and then they went back on their word re: no new taxes.


57 posted on 04/02/2010 1:18:51 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

..almost forgot... then there was that strange uncomfortable vision of the “new world order”.


58 posted on 04/02/2010 1:19:53 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: RedHeeler
I had left by then and have no idea what contributions he made to the first Bush administration. Having said that, it would be very odd for him to not have been a key player in that government, since most of his modern predecessors and every VP since were. Hell, the Left claims that Vice President Cheney was chief executive in all but name. No, I'm not saying that Dan Quayle is Dick Cheney, but I'm sure he wasn't a typical 19th Century VP, either.
59 posted on 04/02/2010 1:23:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: blackbart.223

McCain was never president.

he is one out of 100.
.....................
with that said,
I hope Mc looses in the primary


60 posted on 04/02/2010 1:26:34 AM PDT by element92
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