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The Party of 'Yes, but'
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 11, 2009 | Irwin M. Stelzer

Posted on 05/10/2009 6:41:44 AM PDT by pleikumud

Conservatives need to swallow hard, accept the goals of the Obama administration .......

No use arguing whether the globe is warming as a result of the use of carbon-based fuels: Rightly or wrongly, voters believe that to be the case.

No use arguing that the nation's health care system produces a quantity and quality of care that is satisfactory: Rightly or wrongly, many voters fear the financial consequences of even nonserious illnesses or of a loss of job-based insurance coverage.

No use arguing that the education system produces equal opportunity for the children of rich and poor to achieve their potentials: Too many unbright sons of alumni inhabit the classrooms of our better colleges while poorer kids lack the educational foundation that might gain them admission even if the admission criteria are skewed in their favor.

(Excerpt) Read more at theweeklystandard.com ...


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The Weekly Standard isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on. This article says we should accept man-made global warming as fact, that we should "agree" that health care in the U.S. is unsatisfactory, et cetera, ad nauseum. In other words, Stelzer and the Weekly Standard suggest that the GOP accept lies as facts.

What about having a leader who shows the way? Who actually leads people to accept that the USSR is not a permanent fixture, as Reagan did. Are Republican politicians incapable of communicating facts to the public in a convincing manner?

1 posted on 05/10/2009 6:41:44 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

“No use arguing whether the globe is warming as a result of the use of carbon-based fuels: Rightly or wrongly, voters believe that to be the case.”

WRONG!

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/04/vas-majority-believe-global-warming-is.html


2 posted on 05/10/2009 6:46:35 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: pleikumud

Stelzer’s been in Britain too long. What he’s advocating is that the Republican Party become like the Tories. No Thanks.


3 posted on 05/10/2009 6:47:00 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: pleikumud

Nobody tells me what to accept. And I mean nobody.

I believe that the other side is made up of gullible people, ignorant people, mentally ill, malcontent whiners, communists, homosexuals, etc. Why would anyone ever accept their goals.

The second amendment and more importantly the spirit of serious fighting against an evil dictatorship is tailor made for situations like this.


4 posted on 05/10/2009 6:50:09 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen ( To obummer the people are revolting.)
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To: pleikumud
No use arguing whether the globe is warming as a result of the use of carbon-based fuels: Rightly or wrongly, voters believe that to be the case.

So if voters believe eating colorful jelly beans will make their flatulence smell like a flower shop, that makes it so?

Where do they find these idiots, and just whom did they expect to be swayed by this crap?

After all, if we were suckers, we'd already be liberals.

5 posted on 05/10/2009 6:50:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

I am a proud member of the “Party of NO”. I do not want Obummer to fail. I WANT HIS POLICIES AND HIS FAR LEFT RADICAL AGENDA TO FAIL. But I guess that really amounts to the same thing anyway. So go ahead, Obummer, make my day - FAIL YOU !@#$%^&*! SOB!


6 posted on 05/10/2009 6:50:58 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: pleikumud

Partys are becoming OBSOLETE...


7 posted on 05/10/2009 6:54:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: vbmoneyspender

If it were up to Stelzer, we would have accepted the idea that the USSR would continue for a hundred years or more. We would have accepted “peace in our time” instead of getting rid of Hitler. We would lie down and let the liberals (Demo-Socialists) continue to trash the Constitution. We would have accepted the tyranny of King George III. We would try to reason with North Korea, Iran, Hezbollah .............. need I say more?


8 posted on 05/10/2009 6:57:07 AM PDT by pleikumud
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I think the Republicans should take the “Party of no” label and run with it.

(i.e Yes we are the party of no; no to raising taxes, no to illegal immigration, no to wasteful government spending, no to coddling terrorists..._

you get my drift.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 6:57:10 AM PDT by DaiHuy (')
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The Republican Party should adopt the Fair Tax, which gets rid of the federal income tax altogether, along with the IRS. There are bills pending in both the House and Senate, being held up of course by Obama’s Socialist Party.

How many voters would say “YES” if you ask them whether they approve getting rid of the federal income tax system?

www.fairtax.org has all the details

57,000 pages of IRS idiocy are replaced by one retail national sales tax. Socialists don’t like the idea, because it would reverse the federal government’s ability to tinker with our lives through the tax code.

The economy would boom if we had the Fair Tax.


10 posted on 05/10/2009 7:03:33 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

They need to become - not the party of no, beu the party of Hell NO!


11 posted on 05/10/2009 7:06:30 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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How sad, how completely sad.
12 posted on 05/10/2009 7:11:30 AM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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Inside the beltway mentality.Standard? My ass.
13 posted on 05/10/2009 7:15:32 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: pleikumud
No use arguing whether the globe is warming as a result of the use of carbon-based fuels: Rightly or wrongly, voters believe that to be the case.

Except that only 34 percent of the public believes in human-caused global warming - a significant drop over the last few years - largely because the skeptics refused to be silenced into accepting a falsehood. Someone needs to hand this pinhead a binky so he can go hide in a closet and suck his thumb.

15 posted on 05/10/2009 7:18:28 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: imahawk

It should be renamed the Weekly Sub-Standard. We don’t need “new ideas” that mirror the Democrats. We need a leader who can articulate basic conservative principles to the masses in a way that they can understand and apply to the issues of the day.


16 posted on 05/10/2009 7:35:26 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Russ

Barnes enjoys the cocktail party circut way too much.Might be the reason they dont like Palin.She represents outside the beltway thinking and true conservatism.They suck.


17 posted on 05/10/2009 7:49:06 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: dirtboy

The whole idea of “man-made global warming” is a pagan religion. Obama and the Congressional National Socialists think they are high priests of Global Warming, beating on the drums, praying to the Gods of the Greenhouse Gases, spreading ignorance around the country.

Obama wants Cap & Trade, which would be a death sentence for our economy. I have to wonder if Obama and the other Socialist sponsors of this legislation are aware of basic facts. For example: 1) greenhouse gases are not evil, they are essential to keeping the earth warm enough for humans; 2) the most common greenhouse gas is water vapor; 3) CO2 is not pollution, it is essential for plants and humans; 4) CO2 is only a trace element in the atmosphere at 380 parts per million; 5) humans and their activities account for only 3% of CO2 emissions each year; 6) the earth has had cycles of cooling and warming about every 1,500 years due to variations in the sun’s activity and our orbit around the sun; 7) these cycles are beyond human control; 8) about 1,000 years ago, Greenland had vineyards; 9) the earth is cooling now, not warming relative to prior decades; 10) water expands when cooled (or frozen) and contracts when heated, so warmer temperatures would reduce sea levels as ice caps melt; and 11) a major reduction of sun spots in recent years suggests a coming mini ice age.
An excerpt from the March 2009 issue of The American Spectator: “All scientists agree that if man-made global warming is real, it would leave a fingerprint in the form of temperatures increasing with altitude in the tropical troposphere portion of the atmosphere up to a hotspot about 10 kilometers above the surface, reflecting the pattern of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Warming due to solar variations or other natural causes would not leave such a fingerprint pattern. Recently, higher-quality temperature data from balloons and satellites ... enables us to settle the man-made global warming debate definitively. The data from weather balloons shows the opposite pattern: no increasing warming with altitude, but rather a slight cooling with no hotspot. The satellite data shows the same result: no increasing temperature with altitude, no hotspot, no fingerprint, maybe again a slight cooling with altitude. Game over. QED. The global warming empire is rattling around but has not and cannot come up with an effective response. The data is the data. The science is the science. Man-made global warming is a hoax developed to serve powerful special interests.” (This was written by Peter Ferrara.)

Obama may not know these things, or he may be choosing to ignore the facts in order to create a huge new bureaucracy of socialist government control over our lives. Cap & trade would cause a huge decrease in GDP along with a huge increase in energy costs for Americans, and massive unemployment - probably higher than 15%. This will weaken our national defense capability versus our enemies, threatening capitalism and freedom.

Everyone should write to his or her Congressmoron. Remind them of the facts and the damage that would be caused by “cap & trade”.


18 posted on 05/10/2009 7:57:28 AM PDT by pleikumud
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>"Rightly or wrongly, many voters fear the financial consequences of even nonserious illnesses or of a loss of job-based insurance coverage."

Was the Swine Flu a test on the fear factor?

Fear enough to Nationalist Socialize healthcare?

Remember when in WWII the owner of GM said "What's good for GM is good for America."?

Clump.. clump...clump...clump...
Goosestepping our way to global fascism.

19 posted on 05/10/2009 8:09:28 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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If this guy is a republican thinker, count me out. What a dolt. His thesis at the end: Conservatives need to swallow hard, accept the goals of the Obama administration, and find ways to achieve them...
20 posted on 05/10/2009 8:12:27 AM PDT by nhwingut ( Don't Blame Me. I Voted For Waterboarding...)
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