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The Party of 'Yes, but'
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 11, 2009 | Irwin M. Stelzer

Posted on 05/10/2009 6:41:44 AM PDT by pleikumud

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>We would have accepted “peace in our time” instead of getting rid of Hitler. "

We did just that. Until Dolphie picked on Kid Joe.

The illusion that we are free is rapidly vaporizing.

21 posted on 05/10/2009 8:13:08 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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Apparently there is no conservative leadership willing to tell the public the facts, such as: 1) we have the best medical care in the world; 2) we are over-insured - people expect to pay $20 for a medical check-up, but think nothing of paying $350 for new brakes on the car; 3) foreigners come Here for medical treatment; 4) there are more MRI machines in Philadelphia than all of Canada; 5) private research and development of new drugs (not government) has given us long lives and fewer hospital stays; 6) at least half of all hospital patients at a given time are there due to self-inflicted problems - alcohol, drug use, smoking, obesity; 7) socialized medicine will lead to long waits, fewer doctors and hospitals, lower quality, and more fraud; ETC ETC


22 posted on 05/10/2009 8:25:17 AM PDT by pleikumud
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Rightly or wrongly, voters believe that to be the case.

Wrong.

Should they agree that everyone should jump off a cliff just because the voters say so? That is essentially what the believers are saying....ruin your economy. Windmills and solar panels will not cover our demand, not even close. We are being asked to go back to 1900 or so in terms of CO2 emissions with 3 or 4 times the population. I can't be done without a MASSIVE nuclear plant construction program.

Leaders stick to their guns even in the face of opposition. They either go down for the cause or are later hailed for their strength sticking to what is right.

23 posted on 05/10/2009 8:32:52 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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And I don’t hear any “leader” telling the public that the U.S. should build nuclear power plants with the same passion that it built tanks during WW II. There seems to be no “leadership” at all on this issue, despite the fact that nuclear is the best solution, and this nation has the resources to build hundreds of new nuclear power plants. We could even do it relatively fast if it were made a national priority, like D Day.


24 posted on 05/10/2009 8:40:58 AM PDT by pleikumud
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There seems to be no “leadership” at all on this issue

There isn't any leadership on this issue. I cannot believe most politicians and even corporations are pushing the "green" agenda with no regard for tomorrow.

There is a huge train wreck coming, and we have all been forced to board the train.

25 posted on 05/10/2009 8:53:00 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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This is precisely the rhetoric we are not hearing from our “conserevative spokespersons. It is clearly, however, the dominant attitude of the loyal opposition. Our government has been taken over by an illegal criminal cabal. Where are the strident vboices of opposition? They certainly exist on the left. I fear for our country when the leadership of conservative patriots are girlymen.


26 posted on 05/10/2009 9:18:50 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (0 is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: hosepipe

How so?


27 posted on 05/10/2009 12:26:59 PM PDT by j.simmons
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[ How so? (partys becomeing obsolete)]

A caucus of democrats, pubbies and indies is being formed..
i.e. tea partys and/thus deeper and wider than Bushbots and Obamabots.. or Clintoons..

28 posted on 05/10/2009 4:35:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: pleikumud

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2009/05/power-of-no.html

Verbose twaddle from the ‘let’s meet Obama half-way’ wing of the conservative/GOP, Irving Seltzer:
http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/454ncnmo.asp?pg=2
He gets verbose because he falls in the trap of taking off the most powerful GOP/conservative weapons and granting far too many premises to the Obama and Democrat side. For example, he will grant as a premise that CO2 is enough of a danger to be worthy of regulation at this time, whn in fact that premise is definitely a false one.

While he is correct in saying the Republicans need alternative ideas, he is wrong in saying that is the only avenue for Republican response to the Obama agenda. Sometimes - like when you are in a car getting driven off a cliff - saying “No! Turn around!” suffices.

As a parent, I know the power of No. Sometimes, its the only leverage you’ve got. Today, it’s the only leverage the GOP has. The Republicans have no majority and no leverage to enact any alternatives, so whatever they propose will be theoretical exercises and PR. The bare fact is that for 6 of the Bush 8 years, the Democrats didn’t feel the need to only criticize Bush when they had a better plan. They criticized Bush relentlessly 24/7, often unfairly, often hypocritically, often opportunistically. The Republicans should be fair and without double-standards, but also relentless and opportunistic: Oppose the Obama agenda with both barrels on each and every item where they are doing wrong.

Let’s not fall into the either/or trap. We either have alternative policies or we are the party of “No”. We need both.


29 posted on 05/17/2009 2:25:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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“Should they agree that everyone should jump off a cliff just because the voters say so?”

Polls are a lagging indicator. Liberal MSM bias has indoctrinated too many into the Globaloney crisis narrative.

If more voices exposed the lies of the CO2—and-AGW-will-kill-us hypemongers, then the people would reject the nonsense.
Politicians know that its a fools errand to argue with the ‘will of the people’ but that doesnt mean the rest of us, including the conservative punditocracy, should just be silint about what’s really going on.

And that CERTAINLY INCLUDES THE WEAKLY STANDARD!


30 posted on 05/17/2009 2:29:12 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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