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Did George W. Bush help the GOP or hurt the GOP?
Jmikes20
Posted on 11/20/2008 1:40:22 PM PST by jmikes20
Over the last 8 years, did George W. Bush help or hurt our party? We did see 2 electoral wins, and the first majority win since his dad trounced Dukakis. He helped keep a Democrat out of the White House for 8 years, and stave off out and out John Kerry liberalism, who is probably more liberal than Barack Hussein Obama. however, we got trounced pretty badly on November 4, all across the board, even in Governor's mansions, where Dems managed to do well in 2002. The Dems ranks grew over the '90's, going from 43% of the vote steadily up to 52% of the vote now. He kept us from losing Appalachia, which was starting to go for Clinton stronger than his predecessors. (With the matter of Ross Perot, while most agree he took from conservatives, I'm starting to believe Clinton might still have won 1992, given Bush I's poor approvals in 1992, and if enough Perot voters would have stayed home without him, Bush would still have lost. Clinton did solidify CA, IL, MI, NJ, CT, VT, ME, DE, and PA securely into the Democrat column, even after Perot was gone. Perot was also an abortionist, anti-family, and protectionist, but none the less, may have took from our demographics). Will conservatism survive, now that the brand his been so tarnished by incompetence? Will people see the achievements once the Messiah Hussein sees Iraq succeed, and us come back? One thing President Bush did was to put marriage on the table, which may well be the death knell for the Dems if Prop 8 managed to pass in the most liberal Democrat of Democrat states, California. Bush also kept Texas from even reverting Dem, as Gore, Kerry, and Obama won fewer counties there than Clinton, who won some in northern Texas. Do you think George Bush will have helped our party, or hurt it?
TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: bush; electoral; republicanparty
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To: theDentist
Overall, he hurt the GOP. At first he seemed to be doing well, but as time passed, he sold out Domestic policy to the Dems, turned his back on the platform and principles, and made Republicans unelectable. 7 years later and he still has done little to close the southern border with Mexico
Agreed,but little should be nothing.
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:19:41 AM PST
by
itsahoot
(We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
To: Jacquerie
The only recent Prez to escape flame is Ronaldus Magnus. The rest are traitors doncha' know You have evidence to the contrary?
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:21:19 AM PST
by
itsahoot
(We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
To: jmikes20
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:21:49 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fring feel.)
To: Jacquerie
- He teamed up with Ted Kennedy to pass the No Child Left Behind Act, which increased education spending by over $20 billion and legislated a massive new federal intrusion into local schools.
- He co-opted Joe Lieberman's proposal to create a gigantic new federal bureaucracy, the Department of Homeland Security.
- He has mostly abandoned free trade in favor of a hodgepodge of interest-group-pleasing tariffs.
- Bush signed the Sarbanes-Oxley bill with almost pathetic eagerness in the wake of the Enron debacle, putting in place a phonebook-sized stack of new business regulations.
- He signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill, a bête noir of conservatives for years.
- His Medicare prescription-drug bill was the biggest new entitlement program since the Great Society.
- He initially put a hold on a wide range of last-minute executive orders from the Clinton administration, but after a few months of "study" allowed nearly all of them to stand.
- He has increased domestic discretionary spending at a higher rate than any president since LBJ.
No no no, really, he's done wonders for our party.
No, really.
Stop laughing.
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posted on
11/26/2008 8:26:28 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fring feel.)
To: itsahoot
C’mon tinfoil, you can do better.
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posted on
11/26/2008 1:09:02 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Scotus will find socialized healthcare to be Constitutional.)
To: Lazamataz
For whom did you vote for Prez in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008?
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posted on
11/26/2008 1:10:32 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Scotus will find socialized healthcare to be Constitutional.)
To: jmikes20
The choices in 2000 were Bush or McCain, two RINO’s. I believe that if McCain had won, the same question would still stand.
The GOP killed itself with it’s ludicrous nomination process. Until they do something about that, it is doomed.
To: Jacquerie
For whom did you vote for Prez in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008?For why is it your business, party hack?
Let's pretend you even have the right to ask me that question: Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, Sarah Palin (and the old guy running with her).
I have the right to have my opinion regardless of who I voted for, but I voted for a party hack in most cases.
George W. Bush has done more to harm the Republican party than nearly any other one individual in America, and while I voted for the freak, McCain would have been much worse for us.
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posted on
11/27/2008 3:50:41 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fring feel.)
To: Lazamataz
Thought so. Yes, I have the right.
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posted on
11/27/2008 4:40:15 AM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Truth to the Left is that which advances their goals - Factuality is irrelevant.)
To: Jacquerie
You presume far too much.
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posted on
11/27/2008 4:43:36 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fring feel.)
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