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U.S. candidate Paul assigns reading to Giuliani (Washington Post)
The Washington Post ^ | May 24, 2007 | Andy Sullivan

Posted on 05/24/2007 9:35:47 AM PDT by Captain Kirk

Longshot Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Thursday gave front-runner Rudy Giuliani a list of foreign-policy books to back up his contention that attacks by Islamic militants are fueled by the U.S. presence in the Middle East.

"I'm giving Mr. Giuliani a reading assignment," the nine-term Texas congressman said as he stood behind a stack of books that included the report by the commission that examined the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.

Giuliani was mayor of New York when Islamic militants slammed two commercial airliners into the World Trade Center, a role that has vaulted him to the front of the Republican presidential pack despite his liberal social positions.

"I don't think he's qualified to be president," Paul said of Giuliani. "If he was to read the book and report back to me and say, 'I've changed my mind,' I would reconsider."

Paul advocates a limited U.S. foreign policy, including an end to the war in Iraq and a reduction in troop levels abroad.

Paul said he was unfairly attacked during last week's debate by 10 Republican presidential hopefuls, when Giuliani dismissed his contention that U.S. policies in the Middle East had contributed to the attacks in New York and Washington.

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To: RichardMoore
I've heard the Litvinenko-Zawahiri story before -- very interesting.

Do you think that storyline is motivation for the current season of "24"?

81 posted on 05/24/2007 5:59:03 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: Remember_Salamis
24 must have some connection with The New American. That is where I first saw all this stuff. It all pans out quite credibly. We really aren't getting much of the real story on TV since the enemy is controling much of it.

Check out Mitroikin's books in the library or amazon or Barnes & Noble. KGB:The Sword and the Shield; and KGB:When Things WereGoing Our Way. The KGB has had hundreds of operatives in our media as well as government. Henry Wallace was our VP under FDR, Mitrokin names him as a KGB agent. He almost became president.

82 posted on 05/24/2007 6:04:54 PM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: Captain Kirk

Rudy doesn’t strike me as being a deep thinker, nor an intense reader. I only hope that he could at least read The Federalist...


83 posted on 05/24/2007 6:31:23 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Dead Corpse
But Individual privately owned firearms would have prevented 9-11 if the government wasn't so hell bent on restricting the un-infringable Right out of existence.

If I'm not mistaken, the major airlines privately restricted carrying firearms in the passenger cabin before federal law did. Sadly.

In any case, the original point was whether issuing letters of marque and reprisal is a serious method of hunting international terrorists.

It is not, because if the private terrorist hunter is in the United States he would not need such letters, and if his quarry takes him outside the United States, his letters are useless.

Extradition treaties have taken the place of letters of marque and reprisal in international law, since no country - including our own - recognizes any right of foreign nationals to detain, let alone shoot on sight, individuals within their borders.

Ron Paul's call for such letters illustrates:

(1) The thinness of his grasp of constitutional law; (2) the fundamental unseriousness of his approach to terrorism; and (3) his inability to perceive the reality around him with anything approaching clarity or comprehension.

84 posted on 05/24/2007 7:06:50 PM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right ,Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: wideawake

Again, you are mistaken. It’s an FAA reg.


85 posted on 05/24/2007 7:11:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Again, you are mistaken.

I wasn't mistaken in the first place.

It’s an FAA reg.

It is now, certainly.

But a valiant attempt on your part to distract from the ridiculousness of Ron Paul's call for the issuance of letters of marque and reprisal.

Is Ron Paul even aware that there are already private contractors present in Iraq and Afghanistan, working alongside our troops?

Or is his position that their presence there is illegal, because they don't possess magical letters of marque and reprisal?

86 posted on 05/24/2007 7:15:22 PM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right ,Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Merchant interests built warships and GAVE THEM to the US Navy. Amazing!

What? Defense contractors supplying the government with free prototypes in the hopes that they will either win a contract or that other potential buyers of their merchandise will be impressed that the US government uses their gear?

That would never happen today!

Oh, wait - it happens literally hundreds of times every year.

87 posted on 05/24/2007 7:19:54 PM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right ,Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: wideawake

By a simple examination of the efficacy of the new “extradition laws”, I’d say it’s about damn time we got back to something that actually works...


88 posted on 05/24/2007 7:23:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Captain Kirk
Well, the war is going to be a non ending debate that I prefer to avoid, but I have decided to support Ronnie because he wants to return to the gold standard, and being an accounting/finance major, I know the importance of that. Since Nixon took us off the gold standard, the dollar has declined by 70%, and the pace has accelerated under GB Jr's. watch. We need to get back to the gold standard or the dollar will be worth pesos soon. Besides I think Ron Paul is kinda of cute. In that grandfather type of way, not in the boyfriend type of way. LOL.
89 posted on 05/24/2007 7:27:15 PM PDT by Aztec Girl
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To: Captain Kirk
"I'm giving Mr. Giuliani a reading assignment," the nine-term Texas congressman said,

Thereby locking up the smirk-faced a**hole vote.

90 posted on 05/24/2007 7:27:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Fred
"Paul said he was unfairly attacked"

The geeky kid with glasses who thought he could taunt the jock with impunity because anyone knows, you don't hit a kid with glasses. Useless twit.

91 posted on 05/24/2007 7:33:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RedRover
Yes, bin Laden was perfectly satisfied when we left Beirut and Somalia. Let’s find more ways to please him.

Indeed, he was so pleased by our cut-and-run performance in Somalia that he decided it was a viable idea to attack us.

Guess RonPaul missed that part.

92 posted on 05/24/2007 7:39:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: cripplecreek
The American presence in the mideast is simply the excuse of the moment. If it weren’t that, it would be another excuse

Just so. It takes a village idiot to fail at least to try to search out OBL's true motives and instead suck down uncritically the subversive propositions he wants you to believe. Leaders like binLaden don't tell their enemies what they really think. They tell their enemies what they want those enemies to think. Big difference, lost on the obtuse Paul and his credulous groupies.

93 posted on 05/24/2007 7:47:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

As far as I’m concerned those idiots may as well get out there and march with the moonbats because they’re doing the exact same thing anyway.


94 posted on 05/24/2007 8:23:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: wideawake
If you had read the paper, you wouldn't have made those comments.

Shipping interests paid subscription fees to shipbuilders, who then built the ships and gave them to the Navy to protect the shippers.

It had nothing to do with a prototype:

"With the onset of this Quasi-War with France (1798-1800), citizens in a number of American cities responded in a fashion radically different from that of Congress and Adams. Instead of banning intercourse with France and its territories, they decided to retaliate. They spontaneously initiated “subscriptions” whereby they sold stock in very unusual capital projects: the building of warships, whose mission was to protect American property at sea. The motivation was clearly patriotic at the same time that it was self-serving. The subscribers were often merchants, shippers, or shipowners whose incomes were being adversely affected by the depredations of the French. Incredible though it may sound to modern ears, the goal was to build the vessels and then give them to the U.S. Navy !"

95 posted on 05/24/2007 9:12:07 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Ron Paul was the Air Force Officer who was only one of Ronald Reagan's Two Delegates to the '68 convention. Ron Paul has been faithfully Married, has five kids and many grandchildren.

Rudy Giuliani has never served, eschews all that Reagan stood for, likes to dress in drag, and is a multiple divorcee.

Who's the pansy? The one who says what he believes, or the one who hides behind a shroud of "I was Mayor on 9/11, so what I say is right".

96 posted on 05/24/2007 9:18:23 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: hinckley buzzard; wideawake
Here's what the president had to say today:

"Yesterday, in my speech, I quoted quotes from Osama bin Laden. And the reason I did was, is that I want the American people to hear what he has to say -- not what I say, what he says. And in my judgment, we ought to be taking the words of the enemy seriously."

So for all of you who say we shouldn't listen to our enemy's arguments, look no further than President Bush on that one...

97 posted on 05/24/2007 9:20:56 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: Captain Kirk
How about both of the idiots read:

98 posted on 05/24/2007 9:34:55 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Remember_Salamis

I guess those headless missionaries and mine workers is over stated, yeah. A political threat? What the hell does that mean?


99 posted on 05/24/2007 10:45:46 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ron Paul parrots the liberal useful idiot line that WE created the terrorists. Just another Chamberlain.


100 posted on 05/24/2007 10:47:51 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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