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U.S. candidate Paul assigns reading to Giuliani (Washington Post)
The Washington Post ^ | May 24, 2007 | Andy Sullivan

Posted on 05/24/2007 9:35:47 AM PDT by Captain Kirk

Longshot Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Thursday gave front-runner Rudy Giuliani a list of foreign-policy books to back up his contention that attacks by Islamic militants are fueled by the U.S. presence in the Middle East.

"I'm giving Mr. Giuliani a reading assignment," the nine-term Texas congressman said as he stood behind a stack of books that included the report by the commission that examined the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.

Giuliani was mayor of New York when Islamic militants slammed two commercial airliners into the World Trade Center, a role that has vaulted him to the front of the Republican presidential pack despite his liberal social positions.

"I don't think he's qualified to be president," Paul said of Giuliani. "If he was to read the book and report back to me and say, 'I've changed my mind,' I would reconsider."

Paul advocates a limited U.S. foreign policy, including an end to the war in Iraq and a reduction in troop levels abroad.

Paul said he was unfairly attacked during last week's debate by 10 Republican presidential hopefuls, when Giuliani dismissed his contention that U.S. policies in the Middle East had contributed to the attacks in New York and Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: Captain Kirk
Michael Scheuer, who used to head the CIA's bin Laden unit.

That he is there is rather interesting, to say the least.

Scheuer interview

Michael Scheuer, Former Head of CIA’s Bin Laden Unit (1996-99)
Michael Scheuer, Former Head of CIA’s Bin Laden Unit (1996-99), describes Al-Qaeda’s Worldwide Influence.
4/15/2007: WASHINGTON, DC: 28 min.

21 posted on 05/24/2007 9:50:41 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Oh no, RG clearly answers the abortion issue. He clearly says he is 100% behind it and if you do not like his position then take a hike.


22 posted on 05/24/2007 9:50:59 AM PDT by Fred (Democrat Party - "The Nadir of Nihilism")
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To: cripplecreek

How could Paul be “helping” Rudy who backs a widely unpopular war?


23 posted on 05/24/2007 9:51:22 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: pogo101

Poor Sheryl Crowe is now and forever going to be associated with used toilet paper.


24 posted on 05/24/2007 9:51:45 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: twonie

Don’t you think knowing how and why something started, can greatly help in making the proper decisions on how to end it the best way?


25 posted on 05/24/2007 9:52:54 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: P-40
I've read enough to know that the primary purpose of the "report" was to serve as a giant ass-covering document.

Others besides me have sufficiently dissected the ommissions and distortions a while ago. As a historical and analytical document of fact, that thing isn't worth its weight in toilet paper.

26 posted on 05/24/2007 9:53:44 AM PDT by jpl
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To: jpl

Did you not like the 9/11 movie that was on television some months ago? In two parts, I believe.


27 posted on 05/24/2007 9:56:17 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: twonie

Paul was right to point out that the main reason we were attacked is because we had bases in Saudi Arabia after we pushed Saddam out of Kuwait. Osama has used that as his main point to fight the US.

Our Founding Fathers were very clear about minimizing our entanglements internationally. Paul wants to get back to that point.

Do I think we can? No. Do I think Ron Paul has a snowballs chance to win? No.

If you don’t research the how, or more correctly the WHY things get started, you will continue to make the same grave mistakes that gets us in the same situations, time and time again.

As Reagan said, we will never fully understand the irrationality that is the middle east.

The ONE part I understand is that because we are not Moo-slim they want us dead. They would sell their sister if it meant an opportunity to kill more Americans.

The entire region is a target rich environment, and we won’t finish it in our favor without taking the gloves off our fighting men. Loosen rules of engagement. Obliterate ‘holy’ cities when they attack us.

Behead prisoners and smear them in pigs blood when they capture any of our troops or civilians.

No one in western civilization politics has the stomach to do that, not Bush, and certainly not Rudy.


28 posted on 05/24/2007 9:56:30 AM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: stuartcr

Yes, bin Laden was perfectly satisfied when we left Beirut and Somalia. Let’s find more ways to please him.


29 posted on 05/24/2007 9:58:16 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

???


30 posted on 05/24/2007 9:59:37 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: SFC Chromey

We were asked to base our facilities in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait asked too. The US did not force themselves on anyone.

BTW - I like RP, always have, however, he is not a serious contender for the race, if he were, he would not be running for congress again, just as Duncan Hunter is not running again.


31 posted on 05/24/2007 10:01:00 AM PDT by Fred (Democrat Party - "The Nadir of Nihilism")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ron Paul ping


32 posted on 05/24/2007 10:02:52 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RedRover
How about we do what Dr. Paul suggested and go after him directly?

September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House)

HR 3076 IH

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 3076

To authorize the President of the United States to issue letters of marque and reprisal with respect to certain acts of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, and other similar acts of war planned for the future.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 10, 2001

Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations


A BILL

To authorize the President of the United States to issue letters of marque and reprisal with respect to certain acts of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, and other similar acts of war planned for the future.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds the following:

(1) That the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 upon the United States were acts of air piracy contrary to the law of nations.

(2) That the terrorist attacks were acts of war perpetrated by enemy belligerents to destroy the sovereign independence of the United States of America contrary to the law of nations.

(3) That the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks were actively aided and abetted by a conspiracy involving one Osama bin Laden and others known and unknown, either knowingly and actively affiliated with a terrorist organization known as al Qaeda or knowingly and actively conspiring with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, both of whom are dedicated to the destruction of the United States of America as a sovereign and independent nation.

(4) That the al Qaeda conspiracy is a continuing one among Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and others known and unknown with plans to commit additional acts of air piracy and other similar acts of war upon the United States of America and her people.

(5) That the act of war committed on September 11, 2001, by the al Qaeda conspirators, and the other acts of war planned by the al Qaeda conspirators, are contrary to the law of nations.

(6) That under Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, Congress has the power to grant letters of marque and reprisal to punish, deter, and prevent the piratical aggressions and depredations and other acts of war of the al Qaeda conspirators.

SEC. 3. AUTHORITY OF PRESIDENT.

(a) The President of the United States is authorized and requested to commission, under officially issued letters of marque and reprisal, so many of privately armed and equipped persons and entities as, in his judgment, the service may require, with suitable instructions to the leaders thereof, to employ all means reasonably necessary to seize outside the geographic boundaries of the United States and its territories the person and property of Osama bin Laden, of any al Qaeda co-conspirator, and of any conspirator with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda who are responsible for the air piratical aggressions and depredations perpetrated upon the United States of America on September 11, 2001, and for any planned future air piratical aggressions and depredations or other acts of war upon the United States of America and her people.

(b) The President of the United States is authorized to place a money bounty, drawn in his discretion from the $40,000,000,000 appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, under the authority of any letter of marque or reprisal issued under this Act.

(c) No letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued by the President without requiring the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President shall determine is sufficient to ensure that the letter be executed according to the terms and conditions thereof.

'Please him' my left buttocks...

33 posted on 05/24/2007 10:04:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Captain Kirk
Ron Paul needs some assignment reading here and so does all his supporters that want to surrender to Al Qaeda -

Torture, Al-Qaeda Style Manual Released by DoD (***Warning Graphic***)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839102/posts?q=1&;page=51
34 posted on 05/24/2007 10:06:00 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: squarebarb

For someone who’s full of crap,it’s only apropos.


35 posted on 05/24/2007 10:06:36 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ( Hillary...WHO?....Save theObama Fo'Yo' momma!.........RUNFREDRUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jrooney
I have some reading information for you Ron Paul: Check out what Shoebat says at 3:40 on this interview. Ron Paul is a jackass. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qmzsMFk9q1c
36 posted on 05/24/2007 10:16:23 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Captain Kirk
Giuliani was mayor of New York when Islamic militants TERRORISTS! slammed two commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

37 posted on 05/24/2007 10:17:31 AM PDT by jdm
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To: NoobRep

Great link, thank you. I would agree with Shoebat on his choice of words.


38 posted on 05/24/2007 10:19:48 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: Dead Corpse
The President of the United States is authorized and requested to commission, under officially issued letters of marque and reprisal, so many of privately armed and equipped persons and entities as, in his judgment, the service may require...

So Congressman Paul proposed that the President recruit and pay civilians, who have their own weapons, to enter Pakistan get bin Laden?

No operation by trained military professionals? Just checking.

39 posted on 05/24/2007 10:44:33 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

Privateers. Worked with Barbary. Plus, being a Blackwater type group, you operate where Government militarizes CAN’T.


40 posted on 05/24/2007 10:48:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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