Posted on 05/25/2006 11:42:38 AM PDT by BigNoddy
Please forgive me if I have transgressed in some way here. I am new and am just learning to navigate this interface. And I am not privvy to much of what has been discussed here.
This stems from a mildly inflammatory exchange I had elsewhere about the Republican Party here in Illinois. A poster suggested that the moderates here were the cause of the current disarray, and that when "we" regain control again of the party then "we" will get people elected again.
I found that most curious since the "we" he seems to be referring to never had control of the Republican Party here, to the very best of my knowledge and belief.
I consider myself to be a moderate Republican. I have a problem with other Republicans telling me that I'm irrelevant, or to f*** off. So what is it? Am I part of this party, or what? Is the future of the Party going to be exclusively with the right wing? Is there any room for the left at all?
What does a moderate Republican believe if anything, that is non-negotiable?
Asking me to speak for all moderate Republicans, for one thing.
I think you misunderstand my question. So I will frame it in simpler terms.
What do YOU as a moderate Republican believe that is non-negotiable?
Oh shucks and golly gee, thanks for dumbing this one down for me!
Might I respectfully suggest that it was you who missed something about my answer? Now, since we're talking in condescending riddles, what do YOU think it was that I was saying?
The word "condescending" was a clue, by the way. A big one.
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No.
Welcome to Free Republic.
Interesting. So you're saying that you want to alienate moderate Republicans? You don't want our votes?
BTW, "left" in this context doesn't mean the same thing as it might in others.
Thanks for the welcome though.
What causes you to use the adjective "moderate" in front of Republican?
Are you embarrassed just to be a "Republican"?
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If "Left" and "moderate" mean the same to you, you're no Republican.
Not at all. Why do you object to my use of the word "moderate"?
Again, this is not meant to be a smart alecky answer. I am reluctant to put my views out there at this point in my FreeRepublic tenure though.
Suffice it to say, at this point, that I am not Christian.
Then don't be surprised if responses to you assume the worst, i.e., that you're a full-blown leftist.
By the way, there are Jews and atheists on this board, so your religious beliefs are not a determinant.
Interesting.
I have been marked "TROLLTIME" simply because I claim to be "moderate". And I claim to be "moderate" because I am not Christian.
I.e. I took a view that was somewhat against my party on the Schiavo matter. I say somewhat because I do not know exactly what the party view was, while I do know the view of the Christian right.
Also I took great offense here, in Illinois, when the right wing of our party rid us of contenders and brought in carpetbagger Alan Keyes. Hence I am a moderate, of the ilk of a James Thompson, Jim Edger, and various other Illinois Republicans.
Why is this offensive?
Are not "a determinent" of what?
I don't identify with the far right in the party. BFD?
Who are you to say that I am "no Republican?"
I am "left" in terms of Republicans. "Left", "moderate", why do you care how I define it?
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LOL! Wise of you to start a thread, then.
What have you got against Zen there trisham? Have you tried it?
Who are you to say that I am "no Republican?"
I am "left" in terms of Republicans. "Left", "moderate", why do you care how I define it?
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Almost funny.
"Almost funny."
Translation: Trisham believes that there is no room for an honest discussion about what the Party is, and what it should be. Anyone who disagrees with Trisham can go f*** off.
It isn't your Party, pal. I have been an active Republican in Illinois for several decades. I am very sorry to report that is exactly the attitude you exhibit here that has pretty much destroyed us here. And I fear that it is getting worse, not better.
Worse yet, I see the same kind of thing happening on a national level and I don't like it. Not one bit. I don't want to see get trounced in November but I don't see any way around it. People get pissed off when confronted with the attitude you display here. VERY pissed off.
You think that's good? You think that bodes well for us?
A little Zen might do you some good. I for one would like to show you what a little Baguazhang might do.
Nor do I, on everything. But, I dive right in and discuss and argue.
Putting up a vanity thread about yourself and your views is a bit presumptuous, it seems to me.
You ain't the Pukin Dog, after all!
I think you are a troll.
The "moderates" have been running the GOP for years and years.
Remember Bob Michel? bobdole? Richard Lugar?
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