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1 posted on 02/15/2004 1:24:23 PM PST by MontePierce
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Troll alert! Troll Alert!

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2 posted on 02/15/2004 2:49:57 PM PST by FRgal4u
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To: MontePierce
I'm seriously considering staying home on election day.

Something you are used to doing I would guess!

3 posted on 02/15/2004 2:52:18 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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Moby?!
4 posted on 02/15/2004 3:04:45 PM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk)
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I agree with you on point 4 and the domestic spending (only) part within point 5,other than that forget it! Staying home and not voting only helps Kerry,the socialist,attain the power seat in the oval office-------bad idea! (smile)
5 posted on 02/15/2004 5:15:55 PM PST by Right Strategy
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To: MontePierce; PhiKapMom
Some people are already assuming that you aren't being sincere. Maybe you aren't, but my position is similar to yours, and I am facing the same questions. My thoughts on the matter and two quarters will buy you a cup of bad coffee at a vending machine, but I'll give you my thoughts anyway.

We are in a war against the Muslim jihadists. They are going to keep killing Americans until we either destroy them or harm them so badly that they are forced to surrender and rescind their jihads against us. Everyone says that they will never surrender, and if that's true, I'm fine with killing every last member of Al Qaeda. In truth, I think we can force them to surrender. They may bluster, but they are no tougher than the Japanese were 60 years ago. When we hit the Japanese hard enough, they surrendered. Our only alternative to this kind of victory is to keep losing more of our freedom and keep suffering their attacks.

While I don't like every step that the president has taken in fighting this war against these horrible enemies, he's done an overall good job. Furthermore, he will do a better job than anyone else running. Kerry will try to seek a compromise that will be a kind of surrender on our part. The Libertarian Party candidate won't be likely to mount an effort against these enemies. The Constitution Party is less enthusiastic about fighting this war than the Democrats or Libertarians are. I don't think that the Reform Party is likely to nominate a candidate. By process of elimination, I would vote for President Bush.

On the domestic front, I agree with you about education, spending, jobs, and health care. I don't like everything that President Bush has done. On the other hand, I knew that I wouldn't like much of what he'd do when he was running back in 2000. We knew that he wouldn't be the candidate to lead us in the perfect conservative revolution. For the most part, he campaigned as someone who would try to slow the bleeding that liberalism has caused. He never campaigned as the guy who would heal all of the wounds. With the exception of campaign finance reform, he has been the president that he promised to be. If anything, he's been a little better than I expected in making judicial nominees. I also applaud the fact that he imposed a steel tariff for a few years to protect some steel industry jobs.

I disagree with you strongly about Trent Lott. While I think his comment at Strom Thurmond's birthday party should not have cost him his position, I'm glad to see him go. He was never an effective leader. He largely rolled over and played dead every time he was challenged.

The only reason that I might not vote for President Bush is that I haven't seen my candidate win in years. My vote seems to be a bad-luck curse on any candidate. If I'm comfortable that the president will win my state, I might vote third-party just to spare him the curse.

By all means, vote for conservatives down the ticket even if you can't support the president. The worst thing that can happen is for other Republicans to lose because you are disappointed with President Bush. Find conservatives at other levels and support them with your vote certainly and your time or money if possible.

Well, four and a half
Bill

6 posted on 02/15/2004 6:44:24 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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You shouldn't have made it so long. As soon as I realized your intent stopped reading and decided to express my thoughts to you. Nothing stupid about us Freepers...
13 posted on 02/15/2004 9:26:59 PM PST by TatieBug
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To: MontePierce
I must agree with you on worries concerning education and some other spending issues but let me give you my theory on why President Bush is the right man for the job right now.

First of all, no President is ever going to make anyone happy with every choice he/she makes, as a President must be the President for all the people not just the republicans or democrats or the rest of the citizens. I think Bush is trying to do something for all of the people in this country which is why he has irritated many in his base.

Secondly I think the deficit is not a serious problem or a worry to this administration since it is smaller, percentage wise as it has been in the past. If you look back to the 80's, Reagan had a very large deficit due to his increase in the defense budgets and a democratic house that would not control it's spending. This ultimately had no negative impact. Look at the economic boom of the 90's for proof of that. The Bush team does have a plan however to cut the deficit in half in his second term and to shore up spending.

Third, The total vision of changing the face of the middle east is a brilliant long term goal. President Bush probably did not come up with this idea on his own but it was an idea that has been developing for quite some time and was put into action after 911 due to necessity. Saddam was a prime target as he had left himself wide open for not following the many resolutions put forth by the UN. If we are able to plant the seeds of democracy there it will benefit mankind in a way that nothing any President has done since Reagan won the cold war. We also needed to flex our military muscle to prove to the terrorists and their supporters around the world that the United States was not the weak nation that our former administration had lead the world to believe.

In closing, this administration has manged to take an economy that was sliding into recession when it came into office and was then hit with the worst case of terrorism in our history as a nation and turn it completely around to one of the best economies in recent history in only three short years. This is a remarkable feat! We are fighting terrorism and have managed to topple a regime of madmen who had slaughtered nearly millions of people and set two nations free (Iraq & Afghanistan). This with losing less than 1,000 American lives (God bless them all) in nearly a two years of war. This is also a remarkable feat! Surely everything is not peachy keen but I must say the Bush team has done and excellent job all in all. He will get my vote in November!
16 posted on 02/16/2004 4:23:11 AM PST by Starcutter (That'll be the day!)
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While I agree with Bush on foreign policy, his complete lack of fiscal discipline is pissing me off. I am a fiscal conservative first and foremost, and Bush has been anything but fiscally conservative. As much as I detest "tax & spend", I detest even more "cut taxes and spend more". This is definitely not good economic policy. The more money Washington has to borrow, the less there is available for everyone else to borrow. From Economics 101, when something is in high demand (money), the price of that commodity increases (interest rates).
19 posted on 02/16/2004 2:29:18 PM PST by AffirmativeReaction
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Bush will be the nominee of the Repubs. Kerry will be the nominee of the DIMS. One of these two WILL win.

None of the other parties will win--NO Doubt about this!!!!

Given the previous facts---Who do you want to nominate judges?

Nuff said.
20 posted on 02/16/2004 5:15:35 PM PST by Conservateacher
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I have a few problems with The President on some policy issues myself but with the likes of John Kerry as an alternative I won't have any problems voting for President Bush in May and November.
22 posted on 02/17/2004 2:45:17 PM PST by jerry639
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You and most people have very short memories. Pre 9-11 Damage to the United States was provided by two BOZOS by the name of Sen. Robert Torricelli, and military and spook hater William Jefferson Clintom. I believe, in 1996, our CIA was defanged by these two clowns. America will pay a huge price for a long, long time for that misstep. It takes decades to build reliable intel ... a true Republican would have known that?
23 posted on 02/17/2004 3:09:09 PM PST by Smartass
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To: MontePierce
So here I am in a bit of a bind. I will NOT vote for a democratic president because I refuse to put another Bill Clinton tax and spend liberal in the white house. Yet I've seen this president making stupid mistakes like Clinton did and spending money like Clinton tried to but congress wouldn't let him. I'm seriously considering staying home on election day

I agree with you on having questions but not necessarily for the same reasons, valid questions as a conservative. However whatever you do, vote. It is your responsibility as a citizen of your respective state.

24 posted on 02/17/2004 7:54:09 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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Fine .. go vote for Kerry
26 posted on 02/17/2004 10:19:38 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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I certainly have some problems with many of the same things you bring up. In fact, I've fired off more than my share of emails to the White House when I thought the president was betraying his conservative base. Absent 9-11 and the War on Terror, I would probably sit this one out (for the first time in my life). But as angry as I am with Bush, I'm twice as distrustful of almost ANY demon-rat when it comes to our national security. All these other concerns quickly pale when juxtaposed against the smoking rubble of another terrorist attack.

Now Sam Nunn/Zell Miller is a democrat ticket I could vote for.

28 posted on 02/19/2004 3:18:59 AM PST by ole_man_ribba
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I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat who has never voted for a Republican, but this year I'll be casting my vote proudly for President George W. Bush.
29 posted on 02/19/2004 7:02:40 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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So here I am in a bit of a bind. I will NOT vote for a democratic president because I refuse to put another Bill Clinton tax and spend liberal in the white house. Yet I've seen this president making stupid mistakes like Clinton did and spending money like Clinton tried to but congress wouldn't let him. I'm seriously considering staying home on election day.

 

If you went to the grocery store to buy a box of cereal and they only had two different kinds and not the kind you wanted, what would you do?  Most people would probably just leave the grocery store without buying any cereal, especially if they didn't like the taste of the two kinds available.

What would that do to the market in the long run if everyone did that? It'd probably make the grocery store owner wake up and start stocking more of a variety.

Don't vote in 2004, it's the only way to save our democracy.

30 posted on 02/19/2004 3:45:01 PM PST by Tiresias
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Vote for a third party in 2004- the Constitution Party!!!
If I have to choose between a Republican vote or a Democratic vote- I would choose republican. (And it seems as though those are the only two to choose from in the media's eyes!) The Constitution party is ultra conservative, and seems to have real orininal American ideas that our Forefathers meant for us to live by....
Vote for Michael Peroutka in 2004!!!
36 posted on 02/24/2004 3:34:59 PM PST by 1_real_american
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Vote for a third party in 2004- the Constitution Party!!!
If I have to choose between a Republican vote or a Democratic vote- I would choose republican. (And it seems as though those are the only two to choose from in the media's eyes!) The Constitution party is ultra conservative, and seems to have real original American ideas that our Forefathers meant for us to live by....
Vote for Michael Peroutka in 2004!!!
37 posted on 02/24/2004 3:37:32 PM PST by 1_real_american
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6) Outsourcing - I don't like this whole idea of a global economy. Making and selling goods in America has worked fine for many years, why do we need to change that?

That's a false choice. We can trade with other countries and we should as long as we are on equal footing. But, we aren't citizens of the world, yes. There are FReepers here who are fine with being citizens of the world, but some of us aren't. Many conservatives oppose entangling foreign alliances or any alliance or participation in any treaty or agreement that compromises our independence as a nation and the withdrawal of the US from the IMF, the World Bank, WTO, NAFTA, GATT, etc. Many of us oppose trade policies that weaken American families. You need true economic security for true national security and true national security for true sovereignty.

43 posted on 02/26/2004 6:20:17 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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5) Spending - This is what gets me the most. This president has spent an outrageous amount of money so far and driven up the defecits when in his first state of the union he said that he would cut spening and use the extra money for tax cuts and to pay off the national debt.

He tried to buy the votes of Iowa and South Dakota voters and we got both Senate Dems re-elected. In fact, in SD, he suddenly got fiscally responsible in opposing drought relief and that albatross cost Thune the election. I'd have thought that once you commit to buying votes with taxpayer dollars, you go full bore.

44 posted on 02/26/2004 6:23:27 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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