[Mr. Mojo]

I have no problem with any of the facts in your post. Zim was in the wrong, as was Garcia (in the bullpen incident).

But I did notice how you omitted Man-Ram's role in yesterday's melee. He and his loudmothed compatriot Pedro instigated the whole incident -- the former by charging the mound on a Clemens pitch that wasn't even close to hitting him, and the latter by talking trash to every Yankee hitter after they just rung him up for 4 runs .....and then intentionally beaning Garcia.

Very selective of you.

And speaking of facts, here's one for you: 1918

[dep]

amazing! a thread with nearly 100 posts on a rainout!

dep

[Semper911]

I have no problem with any of the facts in your post. Zim was in the wrong, as was Garcia (in the bullpen incident).

As long as you agree with those facts, that's all that matters to me. The other facts you mentioned are not in question. What you just admitted is that both teams were at fault, and that the Yankees contributed in large part to the violence we witnessed yesterday.

That's the first admission of its kind I have heard from a Yankee fan.

Anyone can be a Yankee fan. It requires no effort or loyalty whatsoever. Your team wins a lot, and makes sure to have all the best players. That's okay, but I'd rather root for a team with some character, heart, and drive to win. It makes our season very exciting when they are doing well.

Go Red Sox.