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[The Old Hoosier]

No, because there is a viable pro-life alternative.

No votes for traitors against the Right To Life, not even for county Dog Catcher.

[nickcarraway]

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[nmh]

Arnolds pro choice and a social liberal - supports the homosexual agenda. Most likely his wife nor he would ever have any parts of an abortion nor would either engage in a same sex relation. I call that cold hypocrisy.

You ask a question that extends beyond Catholicism. Instead it questions ones views on hypocrisy and voter common sense. A conservative person has NO business supporting Arnold.

[nmh]

Arnolds pro choice and a social liberal - supports the homosexual agenda. Most likely his wife nor he would ever have any parts of an abortion nor would either engage in a same sex relation. I call that cold hypocrisy.

You ask a question that extends beyond Catholicism. Instead it questions ones views on hypocrisy and voter common sense. A conservative person has NO business supporting Arnold.

Forgot to mention I am NOT a RC or a Catholic.

[per loin]

Thsoe past the practice stage will have no problem.

[nmh]

On more thing. Arnold and Maria both consider themselves Catholic. I don't know if it is RC. I do know the Catholic church is coming down on pro choice people regardless of their wealth and who they are maried to SO maybe at a later date your church may have some unkind words to Arnold with his pro choice and homo stance. OR will it be another hypocritical issue because of the Kennedy connection?

[concerned about politics]

Can a practising Roman Catholic in good conscience vote for Arnold?

Yeh. Go ahead. If they can accept sodomites in "clean conscience", they can accept anything. Go for it.

[lonestar]

Can a practising Roman Catholic in good conscience vote for other practicing Roman Catholics in good conscience?

Teddy Kennedy comes to mind?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Wow - here for 3 years, 2 minor posts two years ago, and suddenly you're posting anti Schwarzeneggar screeds.

Talk about a sleeper account.

[Texas Eagle]

Well, the first thing you would have to sort out is what is more important to you. Are you more concerned with money or a person's moral fiber?

If all you care about is money, then you should feel no guilt in voting for Arnold.

If sucking the brains out of babies moments before they are born matters to you, then you may have a problem voting for a man that it doesn't bother.

If promoting sexual behavior that shortens one's life and at the same time helps spread an incurable disease,then you may have a problem voting for a man who doesn't see a problem with that sort of behavior.

I would pray on it. Let the Holy Spirit be your Guide.

[narses]

If he accepts the Church teaching on abortion and fights for life, yes. Until then, no.

[rdf]

I have been thinking about this in more general terms recently, not just in relation to Arnold and the recall.

FWIW, There is some good analysis of the question in the latest edition of First Things.

Here is my current opinion.

It is clearly disobedient, and even a sin, for a Catholic Statesman to hold in public, and to act according to the holding, that abortion is a "right" or tostand for "choice." Accordingly, Davis, Bustamente, and Arnold are all in direct disobedience to the practical teaching of their Faith. [not to mention Ted K. and a host of Democrats in the Congress]

It has been, and continues to be, a dereliction of duty, IMHO, for their Bishops not to confront them with this fact. Davis has, in fact, been confronted somewhat like this in Sacramento.

For Catholic citizens to support such Catholics in an open and public way seems to me grossly unacceptable. It causes scandal.

Voting is private. So the scandal is less. But in this country, the fundamental political thought is, from the Founding, that the People is sovereign. So, in a way, we are all statesmen. Hence, unless there is grave reason to do otherwise, no Catholic should even vote for a pro-abortion "rights" candidate.

I am 55 years old. Before I die, I believe I will see the Church take the stance I have sketched in an open and public way. I believe it is the spirit of its teaching even now.

Peace be with you!

Richard F.

[Texas Eagle]

Ask yourself these questions:

1) Why does Arnold want me to vote for him?

A)Is it because he wants to advance the causes that are near and dear to my heart?
B)Or is it because he wants me to help him advance the causes that are near and dear to his heart?
C)Which is more important to me? That which is near and dear to my heart or that which is near and dear to Arnold Schwarzenegger's heart?

Don't feel obligated to tell me how you answered these questions but if you want to, feel free.

[opinionator]

Hypothetical: Let's assume that there was a Republican primary that was won by Arnold. In the subsequent election between Arnold and a Democratic candidate who would you vote for? Would voting for Arnold trouble you so much that you would not vote at all? Could you live with yourself if you voted for Arnold? Could you live with yourself if you didn't vote and the Democrat won? Answer these questions and you will know what to do on Tuesday.

[doug from upland]

This Catholic believes it is immoral to allow Gray Davis or Cruz Bustamante to be in power.

[chicagolady]

Man, you really started something. :)

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

No, a practicing Catholic cannot in good conscience vote for a pro-abort candidate when there is a pro-life candidate running. Davis, Cruz and Arnold are all pro-abort alleged Catholics. Tom McClintock is a Baptist. This Baptist adheres to Catholic teaching more so than the other three. In this instance, Catholics should vote for the Baptist.

I pinged some others who might know the answer to this question. Does voting for a pro-abort incur some sort of sin on the part of the voter? Can this be construed as facilitating abortion?

[Rudder]

Vote for Arnold then seek absolution in the confessional afterward.