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To: thoughtomator
You are representing an ideology as opposed to a theory on government; you apologize for the state when it robs the people to pay for its wars, and also, apparently want the state to provide security for all rights.

That is the path to a very large and powerful state which I find to be completely illogical and unworkable in the context of 'libertarianism' but that is why I am a rightwing libertarian and you are a left-libertarian.
378 posted on 10/03/2003 5:31:56 AM PDT by JohnGalt (And Even the Jordan Rivers' Got Bodies Floating)
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To: JohnGalt
I am in fact representing a theory of government - that the government has limited powers over the individual and that individuals as well, by consenting to be governed, relinquish their right to violence against others in order to receive recourse through the government with respect to violence against them.

Libertarianism does not imply 'no government at all'. It implies government strictly limited to what is necessary for it to fulfill its reason for existence. The #1 reason for any government's existence is to protect its people against foreign invasion. It is not libertarian at all to suggest we hide our heads in the sand when a foreign power declares war on us and murders thousands of our citizens in cold blood.
380 posted on 10/03/2003 9:02:51 AM PDT by thoughtomator (tpaine says, "Don't post to me anymore." <-- guess he lost that argument. Don't kill babies, people!)
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