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To: JohnGalt
Well, we are in (general) agreement but I am still curious why you did not recognize that I am merely the libertarian version of the system you outlined.

Well, libertarianism, conventionally defined, is the philosophy that the only purpose of government is to protect individual rights. The conventional definition denies any mandate to further, or even the existence of the common good. You seem to affirm that government, on various levels, should further the common good, over and above protecting rights, so by conventional standards, you are not a libertarian. But, if you wish to call yourself such, no one's stopping you. At the end of the day it's just a label, and it's the substance of a philosophy, not its label, that is important.

319 posted on 10/01/2003 1:58:22 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: traditionalist
libertarianism, conventionally defined, is the philosophy that the only purpose of government is to protect individual rights. The conventional definition denies any mandate to further, or even the existence of the common good.

I don't agree that libertarianism denies the existence of the common good. But I do agree that libertarianism denies any governmental mandate to further the common good---and I support that position.

320 posted on 10/01/2003 2:02:51 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: traditionalist
That is the defintion of liberal-tarianism.

'the conventional definition denies any mandate to further, or even the existence of the common good'

Most left libertarians are perfectly comfortable with the supra-state using violence to achieve ends (be it Iraq, or the War of Southern Independence.)

I don't affirm government, I believe it is a useful tool in protecting liberty, less you have a judicial tyranny or a 'Church' tyranny (that is to say the actual members of the church-- not church doctrine-- hope are clear on meaning.)

However, I am also curious about anarcho-capitalist arangements with insurance companies providing services, nationless soveriegnty/citizenship as practiced in the Middle Ages. Your mistake is assuming the left-libertarians, who range from supra-statists to left-anarchists, account for the distincly different right libertarians you clearly are more familiar with.
322 posted on 10/01/2003 2:07:37 PM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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