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To: tpaine
The table is set... I am eager to hear what you have to say.
2 posted on 09/27/2003 8:47:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: thoughtomator
#72: Schwarzenegger's campaign accounts $2.4 million in red ^

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To: narses
It's a yoke narses..

Find somewhere to buy yourself a sense of humor.. -- And a copy of our constitution.

72 posted on 09/26/2003 8:30 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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To: tpaine
Yeah, drugs, whores and dead babies, great material for a stand up comic.

74 posted on 09/26/2003 8:32 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: tpaine
Tpaine, you need to brush up some yourself on founding documents.

Remember this little gem?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


[1]- Libertarianism and abortion are incompatible on the most fundamental level.

[2]- The first of all rights you must respect, if you wish to emerge from a Hobbesian state of war, is the right to life.

[3]- Notice that these rights are endowed by the Creator, not the government.

[4]- Once a life is created, no self-respecting libertarian can countenance its termination, pre or post birth.

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Mator, - you 'set' the table with your 4 claims above. -- Address them with supporting facts, then I'll respond.

And, - I'll correct your opening supposition:

"tpaine believes [our constitution] supports abortion rights."
8 posted on 09/28/2003 9:25:13 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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To: thoughtomator
REPUBLICAN LIBERTY CAUCUS POSITION STATEMENT
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/721810/posts


What is the RLC's position on abortion?

Neutral. We have both pro-lifers to pro-choicers, and in between. As far as libertarian groups go, you'll find that we are probably the most tolerant of the pro-life viewpoint. Our immediate past chairman, Cong. Ron Paul (R-TX, 14th Dist.) is very pro-life. Many other members are pro-choice. As libertarians, we oppose Federal funding of abortion under any circumstances.

It is not a litmus test, and it is not an issue that is often debated internally. However, the California RLC website www.LibertyCaucus.org, has sponsored a debate on the issue between two prominent members.


11 posted on 09/28/2003 10:02:48 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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