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To: OWK
"Nor would demonstration of a universal consensus do anything to validate the veracity of a given untestable assertion."
-OWK-

Exactly, -- but most here cannot understand what you just wrote.
Its a hopeless task to attempt to reason in the face of irrational faith.

45 posted on 09/18/2003 10:26:54 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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To: tpaine; OWK; AndrewC; DittoJed2; PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl; Phaedrus; unspun
Its a hopeless task to attempt to reason in the face of irrational faith.

On that score, tpaine, you and I are in total agreement.

But I do want to add one tiny qualification: Faith is only truly irrational when it is atheist faith.

48 posted on 09/18/2003 10:38:33 AM PDT by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: tpaine
Its a hopeless task to attempt to reason in the face of irrational faith.
What is your proof that it is irrational? This is a typical assertion that bares no resemblence to truth. Christianity is ultimately a faith issue, however it is not without rational reasons to belive. You seek to portray Christianity as some fideistic system of belief when in reality our faith is not irrational at all. Here are four such rational reasons concerning just ONE element of the story of Christianity that indicate it is a rational faith in which to believe.
49 posted on 09/18/2003 10:43:55 AM PDT by DittoJed2 (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.- Patrick Henry)
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