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To: DittoJed2; OWK; PatrickHenry
Naturalism, believing that there is nothing beyond space, time and energy, would answer the question [of "How do you know that you know?] by pointing to the human mind. Rational thought--figuring things out deductively--is one prime way we gain knowledge. Human reason is a good enough method to find out what we need to know. The mind is the center of our source of knowledge. Another way to knowledge is by accumulating hard scientific data of observable and measurable experience. This view says that the source of our knowledge is found in the senses. We know what we can perceive through what we can measure. Since naturalism denies any supernaturalism (anything above or outside of the natural world), what the human mind can reason and measure is the only standard for gaining knowledge.

Fine post, DittoJed2. Thanks for the ping!

3 posted on 09/17/2003 12:11:26 PM PDT by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: betty boop
Thank you! See post 5. I believe OWK is still using a term he hasn't defined for you sufficiently- reality.
6 posted on 09/17/2003 1:57:55 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.- Patrick Henry)
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