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To: DittoJed2; betty boop
-- I see reality happening all about me, and think it best defined by what happens when I forget to take it into account..
My actions have consequenses which can hurt. Reality can hurt.
Whereas imagination cannot hurt unless acted upon.

- Thus, we can imagine anything, but acting upon those delusions will bring back reality.
Most who deny reality then blame the pain on 'God' or, on their fellow man.
- Strange folks.

I'll admit that Buddha doesn't exactly fit your definition of reality, but his thoughts concentrated on avoiding pain.
It seems to me that you are defining reality as that which causes pain when you forget about it.

Yep, thats a rough rephrasing of what I posted just above.

But how can you forget about something that the only way you can know its real is when it causes pain?

If I forget to take reality into account, my actions can have consequenses which could hurt me, or others.

I mean, what if something doesn't cause you pain. Is it real? Are objects real? Are people real?

Yes virginia, santa's real, pain or not.

You may not act upon them, but do they represent reality? Reality as defined by that which causes pain seems to be an awfully dark view of life.

No doubt you think so.. You also probably imagine you've made some sort of counterpoint to my original post to you and betty..
-- By all means, dream on.

16 posted on 09/17/2003 10:57:59 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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To: tpaine
No counter point. Just that your explanation isn't adequate at explaining what is real. I do appreciate your defining it for us. Its more than a lot have done.
17 posted on 09/17/2003 11:00:43 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.- Patrick Henry)
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