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To: Hank Kerchief
Reason is a means not an end. The end is what? To survive? You will fail. To survive until you breeding? That's the Darwinian view.

Faith is neither a means nor an end. It is a state of existence. It tells me the Darwinian view is false, that we have a purpose and that there is more to existence than what can be measured.

138 posted on 09/23/2003 6:06:16 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7; tpaine
Faith ... tells me the Darwinian view is false, that we have a purpose and that there is more to existence than what can be measured.

Well that's good, since most of what you say it tells you seems to be right. But that is shear luck.

How does faith tell you what it tells you? How do you know what it tells you is correct? After all, faith tells some people to fly airplanes into skyscrapers killing thousands of people. Faith tells others to strap explosives to their bodies and to blow themselves and as many others as they can to kingdom come. It tells others to abandon all earthly values and live in a cave. It tells others to go out into the world killing everyone that does not have the same faith they have. It tells others to kill and mutilate their women. It tells others they may have as many wives as they like and abuse them in any way they choose?

How does anyone know what faith tells them is the truth? How can they tell their faith from delusion or hallucinations? What process do you use to verify what you think is faith is really faith?

How do you decide which thing to have faith in? What process do you use to determine this faith is right but that faith is wrong?

And after you have decided what you will believe in, how would you ever be able to ensure you made the right decision? After all, everyone who decides to believe a different set of beliefs from your set are just a certain their faith is right as your are that your faith is right.

Hank

147 posted on 09/23/2003 8:41:57 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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