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To: Greg Luzinski
I recently received this for a breakfast tomorrow in NYC 823 United Nations Plaza (46th Street and First Avenue) ...
Upcoming Events:
Gibson's The Passion: Special Insider Briefing with Abraham H, Foxman: Mr. Foxman will offer his perspective and concern surrounding the film. Friday, September 12th, 8:30 am @ ADL. Space is limited. Please RSVP to 212-885-7977 or
vbecker@adl.org.
To: Greg Luzinski
Sure is strange they want to silence Christ's message again. Must be a genetic defect.
To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; Desdemona; Flying Circus
The Passion ping
To: Greg Luzinski
BUMP
To: Greg Luzinski
Very interesting article.
To: Greg Luzinski
Thanks for posting this. An excellent read!
Also, Mel's anger is more understandable in context.
To: Greg Luzinski
What is interesting to me is that Gibson's "traditional" approach dislikes ecumenism, yet he seems to be actively courting Evangelicals. And, the fact that this movie is being made shows that he is ok with private interpretation.
8 posted on
09/11/2003 5:03:50 PM PDT by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: Greg Luzinski
Best article on this so far, thanks!
9 posted on
09/11/2003 5:16:55 PM PDT by
Belial
To: Greg Luzinski
Hey Mel,
Your not an 'artist', your a man. Make the movie, take your stand.
I'm starting to think your brother is right when he called you a wimp.
Oh, start praying your rosary and quit being a potty mouth.
To: Greg Luzinski
This reporter's bias is the reason I dumped the New Yorker about 10 years ago. For background he only consults leftist and paleoliberal scholars. Where is the balance with interviews from Fuller theologiacal , Wheaton College, Dallas Theological Seminary and other conservative Catholics? More leftist garbage masquarading as balanced reporting.
14 posted on
09/11/2003 5:46:59 PM PDT by
mlmr
(Today is the first day of the rest of the pie.)
To: Greg Luzinski
What a great article. The New Yorker is the best magazine, ever. And what does it say? Gibson is a human being ... just like the rest of us ... imperfect. So what.
As an agnostic, I am very much looking forward to this movie. As this article suggests, it seems it will be a movie which transcends its pre-release criticism.
I make this prediction: this movie will make more money than any other ever produced. I will go further: this movie will dwarf all others in the money made.
The interesting question, which is the subtext of all the controversy, is whether this movie will affect human hearts more than any other.
Judging by Sister Mary Applesauce and the other leftists who felt compelled to lecture Gibson, they are very very scared that Jesus might actually come across as a messanger of love and compassion. Why would they feel that way?
To: Greg Luzinski
It was like they [so-called "scholars"] were more or less saying I have no right to interpret the Gospels myself, because I don't have a bunch of letters after my name. But they are for children, these Gospels. They're for children, they're for old people, they're for everybody in between. They're not necessarily for academics. Just get an academic on board if you want to pervert something!Amen Mel.
To: Greg Luzinski
Mel is under a tremendous amount of pressure these days. I am going to cut him a whole lot of slack. Lesser men would have succumbed by now.
To: Greg Luzinski
Abraham Foxman, the head of the Anti-Defamation League. Foxman was equally alarmed by the Gibson project, and had written to Gibson, seeking assurances that the movie will not give rise to the old canard of charging Jews with deicide and to anti-Semitism. Do you suppose he is as concerned about anti-German sentiment that might arise from the next holocaust film?
27 posted on
09/11/2003 8:24:59 PM PDT by
aimhigh
To: Greg Luzinski
Good post.
I was taken back by Foxmans' remark...
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' Now, has the Jewish state, or have Jews, practiced the Old Testament by taking an eye for an eye? No. So a literal reading of almost anything can lead to all kinds of things.
The fact is the Jewish state does take 'an eye for an eye..'. Whenever the Palistinians 'kill', the Israelis recipricate, but only in 'equal' measure. And IMO so it should be. It would be wrong to respond beyond measure. Seems the Bible is right on the money in this case.
If a person kills, it's right that he forfeit his own life.
28 posted on
09/11/2003 8:32:25 PM PDT by
duckln
To: Greg Luzinski
Speaking with Foxman made me realize just what it was that Gibson had done in making The Passion. Gibson had said from the start that he was going to make a movie taken straight from the Gospels. Foxman was saying that, for better or worse, Gibson had done just that. The horror of it all!
To: Greg Luzinski
bttttttttttttt
30 posted on
09/11/2003 8:55:04 PM PDT by
dennisw
(G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
To: Greg Luzinski
I'm astounded that a group "insists' on consulting on a movie when they're not asked to. Name me one other director that would put up with this?
36 posted on
09/11/2003 10:11:18 PM PDT by
Hildy
(SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
To: Greg Luzinski
In the view of historical-Jesus scholars, such differences invalidate the Gospels' strict historicity, and, therefore, any dramatization based literally upon them is deemed ahistorical. Maybe true, but if all four gospels mirrored each other exactly they would be saying that they had to be a hoax because they are all exactly alike. They already have their opinion they just have to find the "facts" to lead them there.
To: Greg Luzinski
Bump for later.
49 posted on
09/12/2003 10:27:43 AM PDT by
StriperSniper
(The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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