The Guild 9-11-2003 Remember

9-11-2003

[BigWaveBetty]

ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 ALL OUR LIVES CHANGED.

TRIBUTES

Tears
Can't cry hard enough
September 11, 2001

[BigWaveBetty]

That is the most disgusting thing ever. I'll never order crab(s) again.

[BigWaveBetty]

Next time, Hilly, just carry a hat pin in your pocket and stick yourself in the leg at the appropriate time

I volunteer to carry the back up hat pin in the event hilly forgets hers, but only if I get to stick her with it, many times.

[mountaineer]

I have mulled the Wesley Clark issue a bit myself, and believe there are reasons for the Clintons to support him and NOT to support him. The point of however they approach Clark, of course, is to do whatever will get the Beaste in the White House in 2008, if not sooner. Whatever Clark does, I hope the Pubbies exhibit the cajones to publicize his many failures and shortcomings as a leader (including his efforts to get Great Britain to start a war with Russia in the Balkans).

[mountaineer]

New York Times report:

INDIANOLA, Iowa, Sept. 13 — Former President Bill Clinton seized the Democratic stage tonight, offering one of his strongest denunciations of President Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992.

Speaking without notes or a prepared text, Mr. Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.

"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Mr. Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."

The former president said that Mr. Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks. "Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right." ....

Mr. Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Mr. Bush's tax cut. Mr. Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, N.Y., be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said. ....

Mr. Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.

Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Mr. Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Mr. Clinton did as Mr. Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/14/politics/14DEMS.html?ex=1064116800&en=ef2289eff10deb9e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[mountaineer]

Interesting how even the NYT noted that Clinton "wandered" with his speech. He's becoming more and more incoherent, as this interview with ABC news shows:

Halperin: Why do you think the tax message hasn't gotten through?

Clinton: I think people are vaguely aware that taxes — They know the economy's down. They know there are some operational problems in Iraq. But I don't think anybody has really put the connection between the call for sacrifice — the fact that people like me who are making a good living in the highest income group not only have not been asked to sacrifice but [current policies] have thrown money at us for three years, literally thrown money at us while kicking poor kids out of after school programs, uniformed police off the street, including New York, unemployed workers out of their training programs, kids out of student loans. This is a very serious problem. Then, there are six and a half million families who didn't get the child tax credit, including over 200,000 service personnel who are serving our people. I don't think we have to get in a big tizzy about it. We just have to say we disagree — not because we don't favor wealth, but because that's not the way to create wealth. The way to create wealth is to be fair to everybody. I think we proved that. link

Step away from the bong, Bill.

[lodwick]

Dang - it looks like shrill lost her lowers.

She should make every effort to AVOID cameras.

Cheers.

[lodwick]

Think clintoon/clark '04...

FL cheers.

[lodwick]

How do those people stand it?

As another poster noted, "Once her butt was like this,
and now it's like THIS!"

[Iowa Granny]

A Des Moines Register Columnist's view of the Harkin Steak Fry:

Crowds, mud give illusion of surreal Woodstock

By ROB BORSELLINO, Register Columnist; 09/14/03

A rainy Saturday afternoon, and I had a choice.

I could tuck in with a good book, a plate of brie and a baguette, listen to some Norah Jones and think wonderful thoughts.

Or I could go out to the Tom Harkin steak fry, get wet, stand ankle deep in mud in a rain-soaked field and listen to a half-dozen presidential candidates call George W. Bush a schmuck - each in his or her own unique way.

We were out of brie, so I decided to go for the rain and the rhetoric. (snip)

I kept walking, and I saw a massive crowd of people, press with cameras and mics all trying to get close to Dick Gephardt. Or maybe it was Howard Dean or Bob Graham or one of those. A few feet away was Carol Moseley Braun standing with two women, both of them looking like they'd rather be sitting somewhere warm and dry reading a good book. I grabbed the opportunity to talk with a presidential candidate, and I asked Ms. Mosley Braun why - given her terrible poll numbers - she was still in the race.

She assured me her poll numbers were excellent. She said she was one of the leading candidates in the latest polls. I kept pushing, telling her that wasn't the case. She kept pushing back, telling me I should look at the latest numbers. She was pleasant, smiling. She was serious. She insisted she was winning.

I started to tell her that in the polls I saw she was about as popular as Saddam, and only a bit more popular than Gray Davis. But I caught myself. I did not want to be disrespectful. After all, this woman is a former U.S. senator, a former ambassador to New Zealand, and - if she's right - a front-running candidate for president of the United States of America. She's obviously brighter and better informed than I am. Besides, this race is quite fluid, and since I hadn't listened to the news in almost 20 minutes, I didn't want to push it. So I thanked her for her time and quietly trudged away through the mud. I walked past a guy carrying a sign that said: "Need a Bushectomy? Call Dr. Dean." There were other signs, but nothing else quite that clever.

http://www.dmregister.com/opinion/stories/c5917686/22247554.html

[lodwick]

Excellent report from the heartland - thanks for the chuckle.

[Iowa Granny]

Is 'Des Moines' just some dirty joke?
Oh, poo! Our capital's name seems to stem from rival potty mouths.
By MARY CHALLENDER, Register Staff Writer, 09/14/03

A linguist specializing in the extinct Miami-Illinois language says he's come across a funny, 330-year-old story that gives "Des Moines" new meaning.

And - chamber of commerce-types might want to brace themselves - it appears we've been punked.

Michael McCafferty, a visiting lecturer at Indiana University who has spent decades researching Algonquian languages, agrees with the commonly held notion that the "Moines" in Des Moines is a French derivation of Moingoana, an Indian tribe that once lived along the banks of the Des Moines River.

But he insists that rather than denoting the tribe's true identity, the name was a ribald joke offered up to French explorers Marquette and Jolliet in 1673 as a bit of razzing between competing Indian communities.

McCafferty based his conclusion on the work of another linguist, David Costa, who wrote an article on the etymology of a number of Miami-Illinois tribal names, Moingoana among them. Moingoana, McCafferty cites Costa, originates from the word "mooyiinkweena" - which translates, politely, to "the excrement-faces."

Obviously, this was either a tribe with very low self-esteem or there was more to the name than first appeared. McCafferty says he immediately recognized the work of a prankster and broke out laughing.

"Then I thought, "Bet the people of Des Moines are going to love this," " he said. (snip)

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788998/22247528.html

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I KNEW IT! I knew it all the time. ROFLMBO This serves the Hoity Toitys right. Will it humble them a bit? Not likely.

[BigWaveBetty]

It's clearer to me now I think, how about this; If the clintons back Clark in the event GWB's poll numbers go down, hilly has a much better chance of saving the day against the lack luster Clark. By backing Clark the clinton lemmings put all their money in the Clark coffers starving the other candidates of funds, then if hilly runs Clark donates all his money to her. If poll numbers show GWB is good to go, then Clark is toast next to Bush.

I'm positive with Ed Gillespie at the helm of the RNC whoever gets the nom will have lots of explaining to do about their record.

I didn't see the show (the steakfry) but the clip I just saw and this picture seem to show that clinton is drunk. What say you?

[Endeavor]

Aggie games are always special to me -- the traditions, the band, the yell leaders, Kyle Field. The best is the Aggie/t.u. game no matter if it's played in College Station or Austin. It's always a show, even when the score is lopsided in either direction.

I don't go to games up here - we don't have a very good team and the people do more sitting on their hands - even when things are going well, than I'm used to. There isn't the excitement and overt rooting for the team here that there is in the south. Of course, the exceptions to that rule would be Michigan and Ohio State. Those people know how to yell for their teams.

But I agree, the best way to watch most football games is at home in the easy chair w/a beverage of choice, no line for the bathroom and multiple replays. It just doesn't get any better than that! I LOVE football.

[Endeavor]

I think HIllary is big over Clark because she's going to get into the race late, and of course win the demo nom and then choose Clark as her VP -- it gives her military credentials.

[Endeavor]

You have "Hoity Toities" in Des Moines? We have alleged "Hoity Toities" in C/U but we all know they're just pretenders. Of course, Des Moines is bigger and therefore more prone to exaggerated egos, I guess.

Don't you just have to laugh at people who take themselves way more seriously than the rest of the "tribe?"

[BigWaveBetty]

Yep, that makes sense, except that I can't shake the idea that hilly is too cowardly to run against GWB.

Ugh, why won't they just go away?! Maybe someone could talk bill into running for prez in France and hilly could be Minister of Health. :-)

[Endeavor]

"Ugh, why won't they just go away?! Maybe someone could talk bill into running for prez in France and hilly could be Minister of Health."

Hillary! as Minister of Health would make the heat wave look like a cool breeze.

[BigWaveBetty]

Great stories this morning from Iowa, thanks!

[BigWaveBetty]

Uh-oh, you've uncovered my plot. heh heh heh!

[daisyscarlett]

BEN AND J.LO ARE NOW J.NO MORE

September 14, 2003 -- They said it wouldn't last - and it didn't.

Tinseltown's most overexposed twosome, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, have split up on what was to have been their star-studded wedding day in Santa Barbara, Calif., People magazine reports.

Reportedly, Ben's Mama prompted him to break up with her... A source close to Affleck said the "Gigli" hunk's mother, Chris, played a key role in nixing the nuptials,.... "She keeps telling him to think about whether or not he would be happy living like this for the rest of his life," said the source. "[Is] Jennifer really the sort of woman he really envisions himself married to and having kids with?" link

SHE'S UNBEN'T: Jennifer Lopez covers up with a blanket on a Florida beach yesterday with beau Ben Affleck no where in sigh