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To: Indrid Cold
I think Mussolini went to France.
2 posted on 08/17/2003 10:30:34 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: this_ol_patriot
Same difference
3 posted on 08/17/2003 10:31:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: this_ol_patriot
In Hitler and the Holocaust, Robert Wistrich stresses the most significant way Mussolini's Fascism differed from Nazism: racism. Wistrich states Hitler and Laval were constantly vexed by the way Mussolini interfered with the Holocaust of French Jews. Italy controlled several parts of Laval's France and made as many exemptions as possible for French Jews. Wistrich quotes the Zionist leader Goldmann as having said Mussolini told him "Long after there isn't a trace of Hitler, the Great Jewish People will continue to thrive." Under pressure from Hitler, and convinced they were siding with the Italian Communists against his rule, Mussolini's government did impose severe restrictions on Jews (many had been in the Fascist Party) in 1938, but as a Mediterranean himself, Mussolini never bought into the Nazis' Nordic supremacy 'crap.

The transport of Jews to Auschwitz from Italy only began in Nazi-occupied Italy after Mussolini had been imprisoned. Additionally, it has been said in jest, but it contains an obvious kernel of 'truth', that Mussolini and Franco were 'our' most important WWII heroes in defeating the Axis: Franco because he blocked Hitler's aspirations to access Gibraltar and thereby control the entrance to the Mediterranean, and Mussolini because Italy's failed assault on Greece sufficiently diverted, delayed and weakened the Nazi assault on the Soviet Union to cause German forces to become bogged down in the Russian winter. None of this bears on the question of 'Mussolini In Heaven' (maybe the writer of 'Elvis In Heaven' has some ideas ?), but all of it is significant in evaluating the historical influence of Mussolini on the course of events in WWII.

22 posted on 08/18/2003 12:56:54 AM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: this_ol_patriot
In Hitler and the Holocaust, Robert Wistrich stresses the most significant way Mussolini's Fascism differed from Nazism: racism. Wistrich states Hitler and Laval were constantly vexed by the way Mussolini interfered with the Holocaust of French Jews. Italy controlled several parts of Laval's France and made as many exemptions as possible for French Jews. Wistrich quotes the Zionist leader Goldmann as having said Mussolini told him "Long after there isn't a trace of Hitler, the Great Jewish People will continue to thrive." Under pressure from Hitler, and convinced they were siding with the Italian Communists against his rule, Mussolini's government did impose severe restrictions on Jews (many had been in the Fascist Party) in 1938, but as a Mediterranean himself, Mussolini never bought into the Nazis' Nordic supremacy 'crap.

The transport of Jews to Auschwitz from Italy only began in Nazi-occupied Italy after Mussolini had been imprisoned. Additionally, it has been said in jest, but it contains an obvious kernel of 'truth', that Mussolini and Franco were 'our' most important WWII heroes in defeating the Axis: Franco because he blocked Hitler's aspirations to access Gibraltar and thereby control the entrance to the Mediterranean, and Mussolini because Italy's failed assault on Greece sufficiently diverted, delayed and weakened the Nazi assault on the Soviet Union to cause German forces to become bogged down in the Russian winter. None of this bears on the question of 'Mussolini In Heaven' (maybe the writer of 'Elvis In Heaven' has some ideas ?), but all of it is significant in evaluating the historical influence of Mussolini on the course of events in WWII.

23 posted on 08/18/2003 12:58:34 AM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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