[alnick]

Thanks.

[visualops]

The Democrats Big Lie

[kellynla]

If you want to know where the WMD are go down to the Tigris River and take a drink. Semper Fi

[StriperSniper]

Not a single chemical weapon’s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq

I remember that in the end part of the war and the first days afterward, those things were popping up everywhere. Naturally the media downplayed them since they had not been filled with the agents, but were still the shells for chemical weapons.

[gore_sux]

Tell him to be patient, we're just finding the Nazi stuff now:

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=792292003

[StriperSniper]

Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq

There was a prototype of a small, crude UAV with dispensing capabillities was also found shortly after the main campaign ended. It itself may not have been a threat, but it proved there was a developement program for such a device that would in time become a threat.

Remember the key words in the SOTU were "growing and gathering" not imminent.

[TC Rider]

Many small missiles capable of delivering agents were found months ago. More recently, many aircraft were found buried in the sand. Be patient.

[gore_sux]

"Not a single chemical weapon’s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq"

Even Hans Blix found chemical munitions:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-12-06-iraq-inspectors_x.htm

[M Kehoe]

Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq

Technically, this ostrich is correct. For example: precusors chemicals have been found in large quantities, along with binary munitions in large quantities but nothing mixed or loaded. A mobile biological lab scrubbed clean, and mustard agent and cyanide have been found in the Tigris, but this is not a weapon per se. Large quantities of docuements, masks, atrophine, chem suits, along with the facilities to make and put together chemical weapons have been discovered, but then again, no deployed weapons. As of right now.

I could go on about yellow cake, centrifuges, drones, etc. that have been found, but the ostrich probably won't ever believe it, or agree with you. Why? It's called liberalism, and it is a debilitating disease.

5.56mm

[redbaiter]

First I would contact the moderator of the board and get him banned if you can. If it's a software forum he's way out of line posting that stuff. It's worth a try, and it's the right thing to do.

This individual clearly does not understand the role of the 'weapons inspectors'. They are not there to look for anything - though they themselves seemed a little unclear on this point. They are there to accept from Saddam the evidence that he had, in accordance with the terms of the 1991 armistice and various UN resolutions, destroyed his chemical weapons, launch vehiles and dismantled his means of producing these items. Failure on his part to perform these actions, or to provide the proof that he had done these things, is cause for war. Saddam never did any of this stuff, so we went in and removed him.

If you want to have some fun, ask if he's actually read resolution 1441, and if he has any questions about it. Isn't it odd how we never hear about all these resolutions any more?

[visualops]

To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed. (besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US)

Wrong.
To discount organizations involved with Palestinians is ridiculous, as Muslim extremism is by it's very nature tied to the Palestinians and the desire for the demise of Israel.
http://www.terrorismanswers.com/groups/abunidal.html
http://www.specialoperations.com/Terrorism/SOCGuide/Default.htm

Does Iraq have ties with al-Qaeda?
What evidence does the administration offer?
Some Iraqi militants trained in Taliban-run Afghanistan helped Ansar al-Islam, an Islamist militia based in a lawless part of northeast Iraq. The camps of Ansar fighters, who clashed repeatedly with anti-Saddam Kurds, were bombed in the early days of Operation Iraqi Freedom. In February 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council that Iraq was harboring a terrorist cell led by Abu Musab Zarqawi, a suspected al-Qaeda affiliate and chemical and biological weapons specialist. Powell said al-Zarqawi had both planned the October 2002 assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan and set up a camp in Ansar al-Islam’s territory to train terrorists in the use of chemical weapons. Powell added that senior Iraqi and al-Qaeda leaders had met at least eight times since the early 1990s.

Has Iraq ever used weapons of mass destruction?
Yes. In the 1980s Iran-Iraq War, Iraqi troops repeatedly used poison gas, including mustard gas and the nerve agent sarin, against Iranian soldiers. Iranian officials also accuse Iraq of dropping mustard-gas bombs on Iranian villages. Human Rights Watch reports that Iraq frequently used nerve agents and mustard gas against Iraqi Kurds living in the country’s north. In March 1988, Saddam’s forces reportedly killed thousands of Iraqi Kurds in the town of Halabja with chemical weapons.

[sirchtruth]

OK, this is very simple here's how to respond:

It is not known whether or not WMD have been found. Bush has stated repeatedly that there is evidence, and it will be present at an appropriate time and not at the whim of the Bush haters. If they do not like it tell them to go pound sand.

There have been several reports that al qaida did infact have ties with Saddam. Training camps have been found inside Iraq, Plus there definately was an Al qaida operative who was taken care of inside Iraq.

Please tell them also to stop lying!!!

[TC Rider]

Grounded: An Iraqi Air Force Su-25 fighter jet, partially wrapped in plastic, sits buried in the sands north-east of Baghdad.

Photo by Air Force Master Sgt. T. Collins
A U.S. military search team prepares to move a Cold War-era MiG-25 Foxbat interceptor that was found buried beneath the sands in Iraq. Several MiG-25 and Su-25 ground attack jets have been found buried at al-Taqqadum air field west of Baghdad

It's worth noting that jets are BIG things, WMD are small things. Big things are easier to find. Yet dozens of BIG aircraft remained hidden for months.

[redbaiter]

For background you should also read Rolf Ekeus' article on Iraq's chemical weapons program. He makes the critical distinction, one lost on most of the media, between existing weapons and concealed weapons-development processes and facilities. It is those facilities - such as a factory that's been modified to switch from making fertilizer to making sarin on short notice - that are vastly more difficult to identify. It is absurd to suppose that a couple dozen inspectors shuttling about in a country the size of France are going to turn up stuff like that.

[visualops]

This is the full rundown on Saddam's disregard for UN inspections and the Gulf War cease-fire agreement:

Timeline of UN-Iraq-Coalition Incidents, 1991–2002
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/timeline3.htm#1998

[TC Rider]

Freedom’s Bell & Iraq’s Smoking Guns

[Wolverine]

Iraq chemical weapons search results

[Wolverine]

United Nations

Security Council Distr. GENERAL S/1995/284 10 April 1995 ORIGINAL: ENGLISH

2.  Chemical activities

3.  Biological activities
4.  Nuclear activities
http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/s/s1995-0284.htm

[BigWaveBetty]

Some new information.

Al-Qaeda chief told us Iraq supplied WMD material: US

A high-ranking al-Qaeda operative in custody disclosed that Iraq supplied the Islamist militant group with material to build chemical and biological weapons, the White House said today.

"A senior al-Qaeda terrorist, now detained, who had been responsible for al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, reports that al-Qaeda was intent on obtaining (weapons of mass destruction) assistance from Iraq," the White House said in a report.

The 25 page document was released as US President George W Bush holidayed at his Texas ranch.

The Bush administration cited links between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's Baath party regime as justification for attacking Iraq to oust Saddam. The administration also insisted Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and was pursuing nuclear weapons.

The report quoted the unnamed prisoner as saying al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden turned to Iraq after concluding his group could not produce chemical or biological weapons on its own in Afghanistan.

"Iraq agreed to provide chemical and biological weapons training for two al-Qaeda associates starting in December 2000," the report said.

"Senior al-Qaeda associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi came to Baghdad in May 2002 for medical treatment, along with approximately two dozen al-Qaeda terrorist associates.

"This group stayed in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq and plotted terrorist attacks around the world."

The report, quoting the State Department, also says the fallen regime of Saddam Hussein "provided material assistance to Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, Hamas and the Palestine Islamic Jihad".

The Saddam regime, says the report, "posed a threat to the security of the United States and the world. With the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime, a leader who pursued, used and possessed weapons of mass destruction is no longer in power."

[Agnes Heep]

Whether or not the actual weapons exist is immaterial. What matters is the capacity for making them. One could destroy every nuclear weapon in the United States arsenal and the U.S. would remain a formidable nuclear power.

[gcruse]

Here's what you have to do not only to refute this to leftists, but keep yourself from thinking too critically about the justifications given for invading Iraq.

Just say, "So what?"
This is not to be confused with the "So, what?" for which we rightwingers castigated the Clinton White House when they used it to explain Travelgate, Vince Foster, Johnny Chung, and using nuns to launder campaign money.