[Hatteras]

I said you didn't have to like him personally. But when the conversation is about Bonds and Ruth from a statistical standpoint. The point is made merely by the fact that Bonds is being compared to the greatest slugger ever. This is not comparing Bonds to DiMaggio, Gehrig, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle or Hank Aaron.

You're comparing Bonds' numbers to a legend, not those other guys who happened to have played a little baseball too.

It doesn't matter what they say about you personally, just get the name right. The numbers will speak for themselves.

[HamiltonJay]

You forget reality, sure you can look at numbers and say Bonds did better, but you know what, that won't matter.. The Babe will still be the person people talk about.

Bonds has undercut his ability to have a great place in baseball history. His numbers speak for himselves, but its the fans that dictate the great ones, not merely the numbers.

Bonds no matter how good he ever plays can never hope to become an Icon.... People will be talking about the Babe long after someone hits 200 homers in a season... only a few stat geeks will even remember Bond's name.

Just face facts, this is a guy who set a new home run record for a single season, and in this age of marketing could not even get any significant marketing deals from that feat, because frankly every advertiser in the world knows that people generally think he's a jerk. Bonds place in baseball history will be simply his numbers, he will not leave behind a legacy. Aaron, Babe, Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mays, Mantle, Ripken et al they left behind legacies... Bond's because of the fact he just can't help but be a jackass, will leave behind no legacy, just stats.