**** FR Big Brother 4 Thread ****

CBS ^ | 7-9-2003 | Me

[carton253]

I don't know about you... but if I spent 67 days in a house filled with these people, and I knew that this one contest is the difference between walking away with nothing, $50,000 or $500,000 dollars... the last thing I would do is quit. No matter how cold I got... I would not quit...

I was surprised that they have no staying power.

Now, I will say that I can't stand Allison... but, I guess, she's played the game... winning when she has to win...

The only problem with Ali is that she has the morals and manners of a gutter snipe...

[carton253]

I feel the same way. The last two years, I found fascinating. Now, I feel that I am watching a train wreck. I want to turn away from the horror, but I can't...

[PoisedWoman]

I can't stand Allison... but, I guess, she's played the game... winning when she has to win...

Her cheating and lies have made the game interesting. If everyone were a perfect angel, there'd be no show at all. If I were on the jury, I'd vote for her to win...assuming she gets that far...because she's been the toughest competitor from the start.

I like Jun better and have enjoyed her conniving too. And at least she contributed to the house with her cooking. No small thing in that dismal place. She has a better personality than Ali or Robert....sheesh, the guy makes me want to hurl he's such a wimpy little creep. I cannot figure out how he got to the final three. Guess those POV wins advanced him. But basically blech to him.

I like "reality" tv. Especially For Love or Money this season, maybe because the guys were so cute. (Blush). Thank heavens Survivor starts next week or I'd go mad, I tell you, mad mad mad. The scripted shows are all alike. Not one interests me and I get tired of the leftwing, gay-agenda bias.

[carton253]

Her cheating and lies have made the game interesting...

I think my problem is I don't like her. And because I don't like her, I am probably harder on her. Yet, her manners and morals are just like the young people I work with. (Am I turning into an old fuddy-duddy?)

But, I don't find anyone of them worth rooting for. Not like last year... or the year before when I rooted for Evil Will...

But, Alison has played this game well. I'll give her that. She played them all like a fiddle, especially Nathan.

[PoisedWoman]

I feel that this season has been the weakest of the four. Bad casting,

I could ony watch BB2 and BB3 for five minutes each....those people looked too sleazy for my taste. But I liked this bunch and watched most of the series. The only person I couldn't stand was Robert. Blech!

Ali and Jun were from the start two of the strongest contenders. I find Jun the only HG I'd like to have lunch with, she's bright and funny. Hope she wins. But can she beat Ali? Depends upon whether the jury votes for the best player whether they like her or not, or go with the person who offended them the least. Of course a case can be made for Jun being the best player because she got to the end without crushing any of the toes she stepped on to get there.

What do you think?

[Tazlo]

Who will win? No way will Dana vote for Alison. I think that Justin, Jee, and Nathan will vote for Jun, not Alison. Robert seemed to like Ali more than Jun. I think Jack and Erica will vote for Alison. That's 4-3, Jun.

[PoisedWoman]

I like your numbers, but I think maybe Justin will vote for Ali for old time's sake. Of course, Dana may convince him to vote for Jun. I hope.

[Tazlo]

Really? I think that if Justin wants any more nookie from Dana, he'll have to vote for Jun. Dana may not have been successful in getting Alison out of the house, but she's going to make darn sure that Ali doesn't get the dough.

[jmc813]

Good morning all. Sorry for the lack of updates the last week or so, but quite frankly, nothing of interest whatsoever has gone on in the house since Robert's departure.

Tonight, we close out the season as either Jun or Alison will step out of the house half a million dollars richer. The rumors circulating indicate that the jury voted earlier this week, and since then have screened every television episode of this season. This could possibly make for some very interesting confrontations when they return to the house this evening.

In all likelyhood, I expect Jun to win by a substantial margin, though I wouldn't rule out Alison possibly winning on a fluke. I'll be back tommorrow to provide a post-season wrap up and to brag about how well I predicted the individual houseguests would do in post one of this thread.

Enjoy the show!

[Peace4EarthNow]

Thanks for all your work this season, JMC! It has really helped alot with knowing what's happening between the shows.

[sweet_diane]

I expect Jun to win also. But if they gave Alison the opportunity to speak to the jury, there's a good chance she have them back under her spell. I think Nate is a definate vote for Alison... he's been whining about how much he misses her.

I've pretty much ignored the last few shows... that Alison is so annoying. (sorry guys...she's a twit IMHO)

[sweet_diane]

I'll second that! Many thanks JMC!!!!

[alisasny]

Since the jury has viewed all the tapes I have to predict that Jun will win. Alison is one mean bitch. (pardon my French)

Some of her diary room statements were just so mean spirited. Not to mention her arrogance as if she is the most beloved human of all times. NOT.

Also its important to note that Alison will indeed be dumped by her boyfriend otherwise he would have been on the last show instead of her parents. Her parents also seem to be very pathetic people. Frankly I would not be proud of my child for similar her behaviors regardless of a cash prize or not.

BTW, when ROB saw his daughter I was so happy. Say what you want about the guy but damn, he is so in love with that child and it shows.

Why did Jun blow the HOH last week? I still cant figure that one out. They both are right in that Rob would have wont had he been in final two.

Now all of Alisons complaints about how Rob called them whores will come back and bite her in that big butt of hers.

Looking forward to show tonight. Shall we have a live thread here at 9 pm Est time? Can you ping the BB list to do so? I know many will watch debate but frankly I am just going to read the recap on that.

[jmc813]

But if they gave Alison the opportunity to speak to the jury, there's a good chance she have them back under her spell.

They did on Saturday. Each jury member was allowed to ask one question to Alison and Jun. They blacked out all of this on the live feeds, but afterwards Alison was heard to say, "It's nice to know that Dana still hates me". :-)

[alisasny]

There is no way nathan will vote for Ali.

[sweet_diane]

So Alison has a chance to remind them of her awesomeness. She's the greatest at everthing in the world... just ask her!

I think Jun has played a cleaner and better game then Alison and therefore, should win the $$.

[PoisedWoman]

Many thanks for keeping this post going! I'm pleased that Jun won but rather ticked that the jury was so churlish when casting votes.

[PoisedWoman]

Many thanks for keeping this thread going! I'm pleased that Jun won but rather ticked that the jury was so churlish when casting votes.

[L.N. Smithee]

Like I said, I don't like Big Brother, but I'm addicted to the babe-a-licious Jun (even with her slight weight gain from always hanging in the kitchen, she still has those fabulous legs). Because she kept coming back, I had to keep coming back. Now that she's won, I gotta tape The Early Show -- another show I don't like!

BTW...I went to the American Idols Live! show, and Julia DeMato was wonderful. I even met her parents and sister, who were in attendance.

[L.N. Smithee]

Many thanks for keeping this post going! I'm pleased that Jun won but rather ticked that the jury was so churlish when casting votes.

I was wondering when it was going to hit Jun that she had just won a half-million dollars so she could express happiness about it, but she was more concerned about the negative vibes toward her permeating the room, and didn't seem amused at all until she ran into the arms of her ex.

I was surprised that Jee was so forgiving of those racial slurs directed his way. I don't think I would have been, because I believe people don't say things like that out loud "out of frustration" if they've never said them in private before. (Remember Hillary's allegedly calling an aide a "f*cking Jew bastard" despite the fact that he wasn't Jewish?)

There are plenty of ways to express frustration with someone without embracing bigoted stereotypes. I am a black man, and in the rare occurrences in which my intelligence has been questioned, I can remember only a couple of people who made my ethnicity part of it -- and in both cases, you would have expected that sort of thing from them.