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When is a "human" NOT a human?
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| June 28,2003
| self
Posted on 06/28/2003 6:01:56 AM PDT by Imagine
When is a human NOT a human?
Today we are now beset by legions of special interest groups claiming that they are something other than they were born. Be it, for example, people claiming they are: a) woman hiding inside a mans body or; b) men hiding inside a womans body in direct contradiction to what their biology otherwise states. They demand we must treat them as they wish based on both their actions and their view of themselves as being something other than they were born.
We also destroy dogs when they cease being members of the family and attack children because they no longer act in an acceptable manner but rather like animals.
TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: faq
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To: SelfStartedReligion
Your first premise is incorrect and I think you intended it as a deliberate mistatement -- but it won't work. I never said that we should exterminate gays so don't even go down that road. Nonetheless, manufacturing an outrageous statement and suggesting I said it is an effective technique for debaters of your ilk.
As to the individuals with the mixed up chromsomes, well, of course these people are in need of psychological support and should get it. But, don't go from a rare psychological disorder and apply the "what should we do about them" question as if this affliction is what makes homosexuals what they are. Special cases need special treatment -- but, I assure you that even among the gays, such maladys as you describe are rare.
The many gay people I know -- none of which have the disorder described -- have shortcommings that make it difficult for them to fit easily into normal society. Anyway, what to do to remediate gays is not the topic of this discussion.
This thread questions simply: If you act like an animal, why shouldn't you be treated like an animal. They behavior of islamic terrorists (see previous comments, this post) cannot be equated with the confusion experienced byt the Androgen affliction and hence, won't be part of this discussion any longer.
Answer the question as has been stated: Again, should we treat islamic terrorists as animals because they behave like animals and not even worry the "human" rights considerations that are afforded civilized people?
And don't start with the "who decides what is animalistic behavior" nonesense.
Well.....
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posted on
07/01/2003 7:23:42 PM PDT
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Imagine
To: MHGinTN
"Chromo Zones" ha, that's interesting. Not intended, but, certainly one I'll use again.
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07/02/2003 5:31:07 AM PDT
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Imagine
To: Imagine
They are more human then you might think. Here's an excerpt from an article I read a few months back...
Article can be found at:
http://george.loper.org/~george/trends/2003/Apr/958.html "'These are rational people[suicide bombers], not necessarily uneducated or impoverished,' says retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Todd Stewart, director of the Program for International and Homeland Security at Ohio State University in Columbus. After all, terrorist cells need reliable killers who blend in, not mentally unstable misfits who behave unpredictably.
What, then, leads a sane individual to suicide terrorism? Scott Atran, an anthropologist and psychologist at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, and at France's National Center for Scientific Research in Paris, believes at least part of the answer lies in the famous 'Milgram Experiment.' In 1961 and 1962, psychologist Stanley Milgram recruited ordinary adults to, supposedly, help other volunteers learn better. When the 'learner,' hidden by a screen, failed to memorize word pairs quickly enough, the 'teacher' was told to administer an electric shock, and to keep upping the voltage.
Prof. Milgram found that up to 65% of the adults complied with instructions to give potentially lethal shocks (labeled as 450 volts, but in fact 0). This, despite the victim's (actually, an actor's) screams and pleas. Ordinary people, it seems, can commit atrocities out of a sense of obligation to authority."
I tend to believe in the results of this experiment, and the author's conclusion that the terrorists are in fact, completely rational people.
It's their ideals that make them do what they do, not their lack of "humanism".
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07/03/2003 9:25:24 PM PDT
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MetalMan
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