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To: annyokie
I'm more a lurker than a poster, but I'd like to share my 2 cents worth. I don’t know that much of it speak to the issues.
The validity of ADHD
My husband and two stepsons (both now adults) are dyslexic and younger stepson was diagnosed as a child with ADHD. I'm of the opinion that drugs for ADHD are horribly over prescribed and that the majority of children who take them probably don't need them. Which makes it all the worse for the children who DO need them, because people (like me) tend to think that a little more discipline would do the trick.
In the case of my stepson, I think it was a combination of the two; he needed medication for a while, but he also needed his mother to grasp the concept of "personal responsibility". She didn't, so he had a crutch.
When he was 18 he and his ferret moved from Florida to Ohio to live with us. Not long after he moved in he gave his ferret a bath in the bathtub. I saw what he was doing and told him where the cleaning supplies were so he could clean the tub when he was finished. He was shocked that it was expected of him, because "Mom always did it".
When my now 26-year-old daughter was in the first grade her teacher told me that I should have her evaluated for ADD because she wasn't paying attention in class. When I pointed out that daughter wasn't paying attention because she already knew what was being taught, teacher responded that meds would make her easier to handle.
Food Issues
Like many others here, I was brought up in the clean your plate club, something that manifested itself in eating disorders and other problems not germane here. When my children were small I gave up on the idea of trying to "make" them eat anything. They had their choices, and like someone up thread stated, all went through a phase where they'd eat only a few things. And it seemed like not much of it. Needless to say, not one of them starved, and none have ever been considered malnourished.
The same daughter I mentioned earlier just spent a year and half living with us for grad school. She went from a college/living on her own diet of pre-packed, over-processed food to a kitchen where just about everything is fresh. She mentioned on many occasions that she felt so much better eating here; that’s when we went to the grocery and started looking at the ingredients on packaged food.
Dyslexia
Reading and spelling (at least before spell check) have always come easily to me, and it was an eye-opener to realize that what for me is simple is a monumental chore for my husband. He’s always asking me how to spell words, and the first time I told him “it’s spelled just the way it sounds” he looked at me like I was speaking Martian.
While his older son was doing his undergrad work he’d have me proof his papers for grammar and punctuation. The kid got his BS in Biology and is now in a Doctoral program, but his writing skills are at about 8th grade level. The scientific content of his work was well over my head, and he knows his stuff, but putting it on paper is one of the 7 circles of hell.
I don’t know that I’ve added much to this discussion. For those of you with “at-risk” children, keep fighting the good fight. Too many people want to lump all kids together.
And I second exploring the possibility of food allergies, except that I don’t think they’re actual allergies. IMO it’s more the way the body metabolizes certain substances, particularly in prepared foods.
Sorry for the long post. I’ll go back to lurking now.
60 posted on 05/25/2003 4:18:22 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu (I have no tag line. I'm boring.)
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To: LuLuLuLu
I'm of the opinion that drugs for ADHD are horribly over prescribed and that the majority of children who take them probably don't need them. Which makes it all the worse for the children who DO need them, because people (like me) tend to think that a little more discipline would do the trick.

AMEN SISTA!!! I am the first to say DO NOT JUST MEDICATE...try other things first. But, I believe that if 5 years of diet, discipline, etc. are not helping and your child is getting worse with the depression, rage, anxiety and mania...well, there's a time and a place for all things.

It just PEEVES me off that the first thing some doctors say is "medicate". You're right, I'd venture to say about 50% of the ADD/ADHD's that are on medication do NOT need it.

. I saw what he was doing and told him where the cleaning supplies were so he could clean the tub when he was finished. He was shocked that it was expected of him, because "Mom always did it".

I have the same issue with my ex husband...he is just a *babysitter* and he tends to react, rather than act...and by the time he's ready to react, he OVER reacts....when the whole situation could have been headed off by a *little bit* of involved parenting.

When I pointed out that daughter wasn't paying attention because she already knew what was being taught, teacher responded that meds would make her easier to handle.

Was JUST having this conversation with my friend over the weekend. I have a *theory* and say what you want...but when these damn educators started moving the date of school entry from age 5 by Dec 1 to age 5 by Aug 1 (or Sep 1 depending on area) I believe the incidents of ADD/ADHD shot through the roof!!!! You have sooooooooooooooooo many kids now in schools that had to wait a FULL year to join in...and by that time everything is behind where they are. My daughter is an Oct 2, she was very bright at home and had to wait, she started doing bad in school around 1st grade and I couldn't understand it. I think they need to rethink that policy. I'd like to see a study on the correlation between late entry and add/adhd/learning problems. I'd bet it's higher on those kids with late b-days. They need to go middle of the road on that...if the b-day is after a certain date, but before say the end of the calendar year (12/31) then they should do tests and see and it should be on a per kid basis, not a general stereotype!

I’ll go back to lurking now.

Oh please don't!!! You have some great input!!! The whole purpose here is different things work for different people and I think we can help each other with resources, ideas, etc. that can for some, decrease the needs for meds or get rid of it altogether.

Here's something for your son to find humor in:


66 posted on 05/26/2003 11:37:50 AM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (I'm normal....it's the rest of the world that's crazy!)
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