[paulklenk]

Yikes!

[Okay, I asked for it.]

[xsmommy]

well i am just being honest, not mean!! : ) i don't think they need more gravitas, if i wanted the stuffed shirt, we are oh so intellectual, i would watch something else. Personally, their appeal is the feeling that this is a bunch of people in a bar talking about the issues of the day(which is xshub's description and why he is critical of it, but that is the very thing that appeals to me).