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Making a case for UFOs
thebrookinsregister.com ^ | april-17-2003 | By: John Andrews

Posted on 04/18/2003 1:19:43 PM PDT by green team 1999

Making a case for UFOs

By: John Andrews
April 17, 2003

Lecturer says evidence shows we're not alone
Audience members listen as lecturer Robert Hastings discusses "UFOs: The Hidden History" Tuesday evening at South Dakota State University.

Area UFO buffs and those with just mild curiosity got an opportunity Tuesday to judge for themselves the legitimacy of unidentified flying objects.

Robert Hastings, an independent researcher and lecturer, presented "UFOs: The Hidden History" to a packed Volstorff Ballroom at South Dakota State University.

"I am not a missionary," Hastings told the audience. "I am not seeking to convert skeptics into so-called believers.

"What you're about to see and hear may seem like science fiction, a paranoid delusion, or perhaps an elaborate practical joke. I assure you, it's none of those things. The only ticket of admission this evening is an open mind."

He began by showing a 30-minute film, written and produced by Hastings himself. The film used newspaper accounts and other declassified government documents outlining a history of UFO sightings over the past 50 years. Events in the "hidden history of the UFO phenomenon" included:

* The first massive wave of UFO sightings in April 1947. UFOs were reported in every state but Georgia and West Virginia. The government explained them as being solar reflections, meteors, or flattened hailstones.

* The launch of Project Sign in 1948, a government investigation into the UFO sightings.

* UFOs that hovered above and in restricted air space over Washington in 1952. The Pentagon said it was the result of an atmospheric illusion.

* The establishment of JANAP 146, outlining the procedure pilots were to follow in reporting UFO sightings.

* The first report of alleged contact with aliens in 1961. A New Hampshire couple recalled their contact with aliens following a session of time-regression hypnosis.

* A rash of sightings in 1975 over nuclear weapons sites in the upper Midwest.

After the film, Hastings showed other declassified government documents that have been released to researchers through the Freedom of Information Act.

He shared a memorandum sent in January 1949 to the former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover. The document discussed secret conferences that had been held for the purpose of discussing recent UFO sightings above Los Alamos, N.M., a large nuclear weapons laboratory.

An August 1950 FBI memorandum talked about the alarming increase in UFO sightings above not only the nations nuclear weapons facilities, but over other top secret areas as well.

Hastings said it was obvious to him that these flying objects began to express an increased interest in the nation's nuclear weapons program. And, justifiably so, he said, the government became deeply concerned and began debunking the UFO theories.

"At least initially, the secrecy, the censorship, the denial of the existence of all this was the appropriate course of action. Until our leaders could determine that this did not represent a genuine threat to the national security, I think the secrecy and the falsehoods that were publicly presented about UFOs were entirely appropriate and justifiable. But decades ago, the secrecy should have slowly but surely ended. People should have been made aware of the reality of all this. This is not science fiction, this is not Hollywood, this is not the funny papers."

Hastings asked how many of those in attendance had ever heard of UFOs reported at nuclear weapons sites. A show of hands indicated that about 20 of the 300 people there had.

He also showed released Air Force documents that outlined the sighting of UFOs by multiple people over a Montana base in 1975. It reported a red, orange and white object hovering overhead, then subsequently ascending rapidly, so officers on the ground could not distinguish it from the stars.

Finally, he presented one FBI memorandum that many UFO researchers term the "smoking gun." It's dated March 22, 1950, and addressed to Hoover. It discusses the recovery of saucers in New Mexico as well as the recovery of "bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall."

Hastings said the extent of his research has also included interviews with many retired military and government officials, most of whom, he said, tell him they haven't spoken of their experiences in 30 years. Those sources tell Hastings they believe that someone out there is trying to tell us about the dangers of nuclear weapons.

He also reassured audience members that if they wanted to, they could get the same documents he had shown them. He provided the audience with two websites that could be used to access many of these documents. He said that eventually, the public would be made aware of what's been going on over the last half century.

"It is simply a question of time. It may be tomorrow; it may be another 50 years. But all of this will be out in the open. I think we're all in for a very interesting future."

government interest in ufo`s-the proof.(FOIA) the black vault site

for information and discusion only,not for profit etc,etc.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; UFO's
KEYWORDS: 3feettall; airforcedocuments; fbi; humanshape; janap146; losalamos; newmexico; sightings; thepentagon; ufos; xfiles

1 posted on 04/18/2003 1:19:43 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Quix
Here's an interesting article, though perhaps there is more persuasive evidence available than that presented by Hastings?
2 posted on 04/18/2003 2:37:17 PM PDT by Sam Cree (liberals are the axis of evil)
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To: green team 1999
I stand out in the yard, yelling "Take me! Abduct me! I'll submit to the anal probe for a guided tour of the Galaxy!"

But do they come? Nope.

Do I gotta move to a trailer park in Arkansas before they'll notice me? Do they have something against volunteers? Do I need an agent or something?

--Boris

3 posted on 04/18/2003 4:54:28 PM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational)
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To: boris
just go out drive somewhere in the desert,woods,(middle of nowhere)and if it happens,afterwards you will notice a loss of two or three hours,waking up inside your vehicle on the side of the road.wandering why you were parked there and not remembering driving to side of the road.

some people notice the time difference on their watch,or the shoe laces tied wrong,shirt buttons not in order(like if somebody else closed the shirt for you,your wallet on a different pocket,

after reaching home next day got headaches,you notice a bleeding nose,some ache in muscles and joints,and sometimes a small cut behind the ear(that wasn`t there before,your sleeping changes,get some nightmares,flashing images that don`t make sense,wake up sweating,horrified,

and if you tell somebody that you guess what happened,they will laugh at you,making things worse.

4 posted on 04/18/2003 5:23:21 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: boris
Posted on Thu, Apr. 17, 2003

Encounter left women with welts, anxiety and a 90-minute blank

A still-unexplained UFO sighting involved three women from Casey County: Louise Smith, Mona Stafford and Elaine Thomas.

Their account: On the night of Jan. 9, 1976, the three were traveling in Smith's car on Highway 78 between Stanford and Hustonville when they saw a giant UFO glide over the car.

The next thing they knew it was 90 minutes later. They couldn't account for the time loss. The hands on Smith's wristwatch were spinning crazily, and the paint on the hood of her car had bubbled.

In addition to amnesia, they had swollen eyes, headaches, red welts on the backs of their necks, and terrifying feelings of anxiety.

Later, under hypnosis in separate sessions, they told an eerie story of being taken aboard a giant spacecraft and examined by 4-foot-tall aliens. The examination, they said, included having their eyeballs pulled out from their heads.

It sounded like three teenagers' idea of a practical joke -- but two of the women were grandmothers, and Smith was the home demonstration agent for the Casey County Extension Service of the University of Kentucky.

All three took polygraph tests administered by an examiner from the Lexington police department.

All three passed.

The mystery remains unsolved.


5 posted on 04/18/2003 5:30:22 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Sam Cree
i HAVEN'T checked out the subject area in many weeks if not a few months.

Will scan some sites again and see what the current state of the topic seems to be.

Thanks for the article.
6 posted on 04/18/2003 5:58:27 PM PDT by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: green team 1999
Why is it these days we have home video of nearly every weather feature or world event, but nothing clear of UFO's? Did they all just pack it up when the Sony Handycam hit the market? Or are they using stealth mode?

Or do they not exist?

7 posted on 04/18/2003 8:03:52 PM PDT by T. P. Pole (This comment from somebody who has several UFO stories himself . . .)
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To: green team 1999
Easy enough for me to accept.

Toooooo many people with no agenda to come up with such stories have had multi-corroborated stories over the years.

Many in high level positions and disciplines clearly warranting confidence in their perceptions and scientific bent.
8 posted on 04/18/2003 8:24:44 PM PDT by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: Sam Cree
Reasonable article.

I still think THE DISCLOSURE project site is one of the best along with the Black Vault.

Here's their home page URL

http://www.karenlyster.com/disproject.html

9 posted on 04/18/2003 8:26:56 PM PDT by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: T. P. Pole
if i show you a hi-8 video of a ufo,you still will deny it. there is hundreds of pictures and videos of ufo`s,but do you want to accept it?<p.
every two weeks some news station in this country get some shot of a ufo.<p.
and the us government is up to their necks on this!they know.
10 posted on 04/18/2003 8:32:55 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Quix
you are right,disclosure project have witnesses from air force,scientists,
11 posted on 04/18/2003 8:34:40 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
More than 400!!!!

quality scientists and high ranking government and industry officials as well as well placed enlisted and mid level personnel--the whole range.

However, the tinfoil-hat screamers hereon think 0.00000% of them.

Sigh.

None are so blind as those who WILL NO see.

Now exactly WHAT the whole phenomenon is--is a whole 'nother issue.

Time will tell--perhaps sooner than some think.

12 posted on 04/18/2003 8:58:48 PM PDT by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: T. P. Pole
"Why is it these days we have home video of nearly every weather feature or world event, but nothing clear of UFO's?"

They're all disguised as 747s.

Actually, I saw some very disturbing film clips on one of those 'Discovery' documentaries. I don't know what the flippin' things were but I'd sure like to see more of those videos.

One was taken by a Ukranian(?) military unit. A compact black cloud in an otherwise cloudless sky, and in the middle of it, a red light flashing on and off--as if rotating. The whole clip perhaps 5 sec long.

The other was taken by somebody filming the parliament building of one of the Russian republics at night. When he developed the film, there is this ghostly 'thing' bobbing up and down, apparently hovering and then touching down on the roof only to float off. Strange oscillations from side to side, just on the edge of visibility. The thing is frustratingly difficult to see/identify. Again, maybe 5-7 seconds of film.

--Boris

13 posted on 04/23/2003 6:33:48 PM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational)
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