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To: ksen
I was always of the impression that the ring was actually making the things happen so it could get back to Sauron in Mordor.
5 posted on 04/07/2003 11:09:17 AM PDT by Pest
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To: Pest
I was always of the impression that the ring was actually making the things happen so it could get back to Sauron in Mordor.

Sure, but if you listen to Gandalf he said that there was another power out there besides evil.

I don't know if there is a quote like this in the books, but in the film version during Galadriel's initial voice-over in the prologue she says that "the something happened that the Ring did not intend." That was when Bilbo found the Ring.

So if the Ring did not intend for a Hobbit to find it, who did? I maintain that it was Iluvatar.

6 posted on 04/07/2003 11:26:24 AM PDT by ksen (HHD)
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Quoting Gandalf from Chapter 2 of The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Shadow of the Past":

‘There was more than one power at work, Frodo. The Ring was trying to get back to its master. It had slipped from Isildur’s hand and betrayed him; then when a chance came it caught poor Déagol, and he was murdered; and after that Gollum, and it had devoured him. It could make no further use of him: he was too small and mean; and as long as it stayed with him he would never leave his deep pool again. So now, when its master was awake once more and sending out his dark thought from Mirkwood, it abandoned Gollum. Only to be picked up by the most unlikely person imaginable: Bilbo from the Shire!

‘Behind that there was something else at work, beyond any design of the Ring-maker. I can put it no plainer than by saying that Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, and not by its maker. In which case you also were meant to have it. And that may be an encouraging thought.’

7 posted on 04/09/2003 5:52:51 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (BeBopALula)
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