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To: cyncooper
BTW, here are some UNDISPUTED FACTS: (hourly post time)

The parents lied to and misled police for the first 17 + hours after their daughter was reported missing....(Parents admitted on the stand to lying...TESTIMONY

A 60+ pound dog AND alarm system in the home...Fact..TESTIMONY

TESTIMONY revealed that the Van Dams were involved in wife swapping, with at least one occassion taking place in the master bedroom, just down the hall from Danielle's bedroom.

Damon Van Dam admitted having sex with Barbara Easton at Easton's apartment...Damon also admitted that Barbara Easton came up to the master bedroom, got on the bed and "cuddled" with Damon at about 2:00 am ON THE NIGHT DANIELLE DISAPPEARED....TESTIMONY

Two people at the bar, Cherokee Youngs (female) and Ryan Tyrol (male), complete strangers to the Van Dams, testified, under oath, that Brenda Van Dam invited them back to the Van Dam home ON THE NIGHT DANIELLE DISAPPEARED...they felt that it was for sex...btw, either Barbara or Brenda asked Cherokee "if she liked girls?"...TESTIMONY

The Van Dam's drug dealer and his ex-brother in law came over to the Van Dam home at about 2:00 am, after the bar closed...TESTIMONY

The bug evidence indicated that the body was placed at Dehesa Rd. closer to Feb. 15-16, than Feb. 2-4. Westerfield was under constant surveillance BEFORE the 4th...TESTIMONY by the man the prosecution originally had.

The lead detective was "not aware" that blood was discovered in the Van Dam stairwell and garage, until the preliminary hearing...TESTIMONY

A spent bullet shell casing was found on the floor of the girls room one day after the room was thoroughly searched...TESTIMONY

NO evidence of Westerfield in or around the Van Dam home...TESTIMONY

Unmatched DNA mixed with Danielles DNA on the cuff of her pajama's. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Unidentified fingerprint on bannister in the Van Dam home. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Unidentified hair on Danielle's body. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Pot use and drinking by the parents on the night Danielle disappeared...TESTIMONY

Location of body: somebody wanted this body found...not buried or hidden...an illegal dumpsite...more like a serial killer...Westerfield was all over the county and desert and could have buried her in the desert...CONCLUSION with merit.

International child porn ring broken up at virtually the same time as this event, with one of the perps living within walking distance of the bar, in POWAY...FACT but not testimony

1207 posted on 01/24/2003 7:10 AM PST by demsux

I won't bother as it wouldn't penetrate your cranium and make one bit of difference to you how many ways and times the irrelevant, hyped, exaggerated or just plain wrong is pointed out to you.

Your "facts" are all very interesting, even though exaggerated and hyped for maximum effect.

But then, reality and facts aren't exactly up your alley, are they. Idiot.

Dems has listed these items from TESTIMONY..except the last two...one is a fact and one is a conclusion.

So which on the list are irrelevant, hyped, exxagerated or just plain wrong?

1,262 posted on 01/24/2003 10:04:11 AM PST by Rheo
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To: Rheo
I cite testimony all the time, too.

I happened to point out Westerfield miserably failing the poly and the parents passing and demsux had a conniption basically saying I was restricted to only posting testimony or it didn't count. LOL

I think his little list speaks for itself and I'm not inclined to get in an argument about it. I think most would agree with my assessment.

I never said everything on his list was not from testimony and didn't need a primer on what was or is. But since he was restricting me, I pointed out to him that he included things on his list not in testimony.

I really think you all know that (since I even went on subsequently to say as much) but just enjoy twisting things to a fare-thee-well until facts are beyond recognition and thus easily disregarded.
1,264 posted on 01/24/2003 10:12:06 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Rheo
BTW, here are some UNDISPUTED FACTS: (hourly post time)

The parents lied to and misled police for the first 17 + hours after their daughter was reported missing....(Parents admitted on the stand to lying...TESTIMONY

A 60+ pound dog AND alarm system in the home...Fact..TESTIMONY

TESTIMONY revealed that the Van Dams were involved in wife swapping, with at least one occassion taking place in the master bedroom, just down the hall from Danielle's bedroom.

Damon Van Dam admitted having sex with Barbara Easton at Easton's apartment...Damon also admitted that Barbara Easton came up to the master bedroom, got on the bed and "cuddled" with Damon at about 2:00 am ON THE NIGHT DANIELLE DISAPPEARED....TESTIMONY

Two people at the bar, Cherokee Youngs (female) and Ryan Tyrol (male), complete strangers to the Van Dams, testified, under oath, that Brenda Van Dam invited them back to the Van Dam home ON THE NIGHT DANIELLE DISAPPEARED...they felt that it was for sex...btw, either Barbara or Brenda asked Cherokee "if she liked girls?"...TESTIMONY

The Van Dam's drug dealer and his ex-brother in law came over to the Van Dam home at about 2:00 am, after the bar closed...TESTIMONY

The bug evidence indicated that the body was placed at Dehesa Rd. closer to Feb. 15-16, than Feb. 2-4. Westerfield was under constant surveillance BEFORE the 4th...TESTIMONY by the man the prosecution originally had.

The lead detective was "not aware" that blood was discovered in the Van Dam stairwell and garage, until the preliminary hearing...TESTIMONY

A spent bullet shell casing was found on the floor of the girls room one day after the room was thoroughly searched...TESTIMONY

NO evidence of Westerfield in or around the Van Dam home...TESTIMONY

Unmatched DNA mixed with Danielles DNA on the cuff of her pajama's. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Unidentified fingerprint on bannister in the Van Dam home. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Unidentified hair on Danielle's body. Westerfield excluded...TESTIMONY

Pot use and drinking by the parents on the night Danielle disappeared...TESTIMONY

Location of body: somebody wanted this body found...not buried or hidden...an illegal dumpsite...more like a serial killer...Westerfield was all over the county and desert and could have buried her in the desert...CONCLUSION with merit.

International child porn ring broken up at virtually the same time as this event, with one of the perps living within walking distance of the bar, in POWAY...FACT but not testimony

Thanks, Rheo!

1,280 posted on 01/25/2003 1:23:06 PM PST by demsux
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