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In taped interrogation, Westerfield tells police 'my life is over'
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | January 7, 2003

Posted on 01/08/2003 9:24:19 AM PST by TomB

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To: redlipstick
We are due to get 3-5 inches of snow. First real snow of the season. You guys got all our snow for awhile, didn't ya!
861 posted on 01/15/2003 12:25:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: redlipstick
Ok. I stand corrected. Lying to a JUDGE in a court of law, during a HEARING, in order to violate a U.S. citizen and California citizens rights, is OKEYDOKEY.
862 posted on 01/15/2003 12:27:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: redlipstick
:)
863 posted on 01/15/2003 12:27:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
They're predicting 6 - 10 inches now!

I hadn't heard anything about the little girl! When was the amber alert put out?

I'll be back later. I just hit "refresh" when I walk by the puter to read the new posts.. Can't stay yet.
864 posted on 01/15/2003 12:28:00 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: redlipstick; All
Answer this, if you know. And since you have law books.

Are not police officers under oath during a hearing? Aren't they under oath pretty much all the time as a consequence of being an officer of the law?

I am not telling anyone what is the law here, I am asking. Just want it cleared up.

865 posted on 01/15/2003 12:30:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I think it was two days ago. I have followed it on the news when I can. Just heard last night she was found. I haven't been getting home from work until around 9pm each night, so I only get one chance at the news.
866 posted on 01/15/2003 12:32:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Bummer. I want snow.
867 posted on 01/15/2003 12:43:52 PM PST by Jaded
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To: UCANSEE2
Where do you think I live? The last snow I can recall here was in 1993.
868 posted on 01/15/2003 1:06:44 PM PST by EllaMinnow (get real.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I have a question for U.
There was/is a case in Louisville where a man brutally tortured and murdered his girlfriend. He was aquitted by a jury who thought it easier to aquit than to deliberate over the Christmas holidays.
After his aquittal, there were photographs - actual real, true photographs of him committing this atrocious murder.

He cannot be tried again, because of the constitutional right against double jeopardy.

Do you think that it is okay that he is getting away with murder?
869 posted on 01/15/2003 1:13:10 PM PST by EllaMinnow (get real.)
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To: cyncooper
Yes, they were talking about going upstairs to get DNA samples.
870 posted on 01/15/2003 1:28:48 PM PST by Jaded
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To: redlipstick
Uh... I might be confusing you with another person. I was thinking you lived on the East Coast. Had something to do with working in the stock market. Thought that meant Wall Street. Pardon me if am I off by a coast or two.
871 posted on 01/15/2003 1:33:31 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded
Yes, they were talking about going upstairs to get DNA samples.

I am talking about the video of Ott and Keyser asking him to tell where Danielle's body is.

No, the questions and answers I am referring to were not in the context of DNA and other samples.

872 posted on 01/15/2003 1:34:27 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: redlipstick
Florida. You lucky dog. I had NY and you associated. Summer was the one I remembered in FL. Excuse me.
873 posted on 01/15/2003 1:35:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: redlipstick
Well, you haven't answered my questions.

But since I have no problem answering questions posed to me, here you go.

He was aquitted by a jury who thought it easier to aquit than to deliberate over the Christmas holidays.

How do you know that is why they acquitted him? Did the jurors state to the media that was their reason?

Do you think that it is okay that he is getting away with murder?

Legally, due to the double jeopardy rule, he cannot be tried again, as you say. It is unfortunate,but that is the law. The law is there for a reason, and again, the "better for one guilty......" thing applies.

Do you think that it is okay that he is getting away with murder?

No, I do not think it is OK. The people on the jury need to be visited by the family of that girlfriend, doncha think? Of course it is morally wrong that he get away with it. But it is the fault of the CITIZENS, the JURY, and the Judge had the ability to overturn the verdict if he knew that is why they acquitted (note aquittal / has a 'c' in it).

The word Acquitted is probably in that law book you have.

874 posted on 01/15/2003 1:53:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: redlipstick
P.S. I have seen it suggested before that if a jury does not take their responsibility as a juror seriously and follow the instructions of the Judge and the law properly, that they take the place of the accused, and serve the time that would have been given. What do you think about that?
875 posted on 01/15/2003 1:59:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Here's a big difference between you and me...
You think the family should go after the jury...I think they should go after the killer.
876 posted on 01/15/2003 2:00:11 PM PST by EllaMinnow (get real.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I never said that I have law books - I said my son has law books. He is in his second year of law school. This is a fact.
He attends school about 300 miles away from home. His books are with him.
877 posted on 01/15/2003 2:02:30 PM PST by EllaMinnow (get real.)
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To: redlipstick
PS again. My lawyer told me a long time ago this phrase in response to my statement about how unfair things were during a divorce.

"If you think what goes on in COURT has anything to do with what is RIGHT or FAIR, you have a lot to learn". That is FROM A LAWYER's mouth. Not Mine.

878 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:45 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Dog search targets all 184 residences in neighborhood
By Joe Hughes and Brian E. Clark
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITERS
February 5, 2002

Investigators looking for a missing 7-year-old girl now believe the second-grader was kidnapped from her home, and yesterday they conducted a rare search using police dogs targeting all 184 residences in the child's neighborhood.

Michael Ebert, a lawyer in the appellate division of the San Diego County District Attorney's Office and an expert in search-and-seizure issues, said forcing residents to submit to a search of their homes may cross constitutional boundaries.

Police said they hoped residents would let them in voluntarily. Ebert said officers would need to obtain search warrants for those who balk.

Police can search a home without a warrant if they have probable cause to believe that someone inside the home is in immediate danger.

David Westerfield, a friend of the van Dam family who lives a few doors down, said his house was one of the first police dogs searched.

If the public won't stand up for their own rights, then the police would obviously believe they could violate the rights of a "potential suspect".

Which they did, to the collective yawn of most of San Diego.

879 posted on 01/15/2003 2:13:32 PM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: redlipstick
And that explains why we have so many differences of opinion.

I was NOT saying that the family should drop everything and forget her killer. They still have the ability and right to SUE that person. Since they now have PROOF, I would think they would succeed.

What I was ANSWERING was your question about did I think it was right he 'got away with it'. My answer was in that context and referred to being put in jail, and possibly executed.

You said nothing about his family or even if she had one.

Here you go trying to get around things, and discuss things you didn't bring up as if it were my fault.

I said legally that he got away with it. (as far as criminal court)

I said that morally it was wrong.

So, are you saying that the family, somehow having this information that the jury decided to acquit to get XMAS SHOPPING done, should not be upset with the jury for total perversion of the JURY CONCEPT? You think that is OK? What if it was your daughter and the JURY acquitted just for convenience sake? Who would you blame for letting him go free? ME?

The family could go after both. There I think we might agree!

880 posted on 01/15/2003 2:15:31 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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