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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: Overtaxed
Ididn't think it was poetry... just a word picture...
8,041 posted on 01/22/2003 5:54:53 AM PST by g'nad
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To: RosieCotton
I know... yuh can't second guess yer life... I just feel the need to be more involved in music...
8,042 posted on 01/22/2003 5:56:26 AM PST by g'nad
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To: Wneighbor
Thanks... I wrote poetry when I was young, but just started tryin' to get some descent thoughts down on paper about two months ago... it helps my spirit... put good words to the proper melody, then you've got a masterpiece...
8,043 posted on 01/22/2003 5:59:42 AM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad
I thought it was excellent descriptive prose.

But who am I??? I'm such a moron that the guy on a WHISTLE forum has to point out to me that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to haiku and "really, we're talking syllables not beats."

Lord help me, I'm going to blow a fuse.

8,044 posted on 01/22/2003 6:00:43 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; JenB
My apologies to this thread if this question has been asked before. I am looking for the source and the exact text of a reply that Tolkien is said to have written to a nazi asking if he was Aryan or if he had any Jewish ancestors. The reply was clever and insulting at the same time. I am also curious to know what his ancestry was? English or Boer Afrikaans?

Again, apologies if I seem utterly clueless. This is my first venture into the HH and I'm intimidated by 8,000 posts on a thread (though I understand previous HH threads have gone on for 30,000 posts)

8,045 posted on 01/22/2003 6:11:56 AM PST by Alouette
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To: g'nad
Nice g'nad. You do have a way with words.

Where is Luther College located?

8,046 posted on 01/22/2003 6:16:22 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (haiku?....you're welcome....)
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To: g'nad
now I'm kinda wishing I'd followed music...

It's not too late.

8,047 posted on 01/22/2003 6:17:23 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (haiku?....you're welcome....)
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To: RosieCotton; g'nad
If it became a job, I'm afraid it would lose something.

Our Pastor said Sunday that for most people, you're job is what you do to pay for your hobby. He was talking about missions work, but I think it applies here too.

I think the opportunites for "dream jobs" are few and far between. If they weren't, I'd be writing this from my beach house taking a break from typing out my next best seller...

8,048 posted on 01/22/2003 6:20:17 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (haiku?....you're welcome....)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Good morning! You are a comparatively late riser!

We're off to the brand new Super Walmart Grand Opening down the street in about 45 minutes! It's just around the corner from my mom's house and I've been watching it go up for a long time now! Woohooo!!
8,049 posted on 01/22/2003 6:20:27 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Luther is in Decorah, Iowa... a beautiful area...

Here's the campus


8,050 posted on 01/22/2003 6:22:15 AM PST by g'nad
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To: Alouette
This is my first venture into the HH and I'm intimidated by 8,000 posts...

Don't be intimidated. Probably about 7,899 of those posts are hot air. And if there is substance in the rest, we'll bring it up again. We're nothing, if not repetitive.

I can't answer your question, but there are those here who can.

Welcome!

8,051 posted on 01/22/2003 6:23:21 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom
You are a comparatively late riser!

*Ahem* I've been up since 6:00 a.m. Had to get Jr. up to get ready for school, packed my lunch, read in two different programs for reading the Bible through in a year, fed and walked the dog, fed the cat, got dressed, left for work, got gas, checked the anti-freeze (it was low, I think we have a leak), came in and started getting caught up...

Late riser indeed!

8,052 posted on 01/22/2003 6:26:26 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom
I like the Super-Walmart. They should have some good opening day specials.
8,053 posted on 01/22/2003 6:27:41 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: g'nad
Looks flat. ;-)

Right out of college I did a short-term missions trip with a girl who went to a Christian college in Iowa. It wasn't Luther and the name of the school escapes me.

I'm sure it's pretty country, but can you hear the ocean from there?

8,054 posted on 01/22/2003 6:29:30 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom

8,055 posted on 01/22/2003 6:30:21 AM PST by g'nad
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To: Corin Stormhands
Naw... but the trout streams have a purty song...

there are quite a few Christian Colleges in Iowa... hard to believe, I know...
8,056 posted on 01/22/2003 6:35:41 AM PST by g'nad
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To: 2Jedismom
They have cut a CD and are having a party this Friday to release it. I'm going and taking my mom and we're going to buy the CD and enjoy the party!

Remind me to check out their site when I'm home later today! No sound here...yet, anyway.

Yeah, gigs can pay pretty well, depending on what type of music you play and where you're located. I want to play out, but I'm not sure when and if we ever will! I do so much arguing with my brothers over what our "band" should be like that I doubt we'll ever come to enough of a consensus that we can actually BE a band...

8,057 posted on 01/22/2003 6:37:04 AM PST by RosieCotton (We don't NEED a fancy singer! Or a bass! We should just PLAY, for heaven's sakes!)
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To: Alouette
Hi, Alouette, nice to see you again.

I am pretty sure, just off the top of my head, that Tolkien's response was that he did not have Jewish ancestry, but would have been honored if he did. The exact quote is in his letters, I will look it up later, when I get a chance, if someone has not already posted it for you by then.

Tolkien was English, but born in South Africa. However his ancestors had migrated to England at some point in the not too distant past, in the 1800's, I believe, from Germany.

Sorry to be slightly vague on this, have to go out now, so don't have a minute to get the exact stuff right away.
8,058 posted on 01/22/2003 6:37:58 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Alouette
. I am looking for the source and the exact text of a reply that Tolkien is said to have written to a nazi asking if he was Aryan or if he had any Jewish ancestors.

It's in Letters somewhere....my sister wanted her copy back so I can't tell you exactly where. :) His response is in this discussion thread though http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/652976/posts

In 1938, Tolkien denounced the Nazis’ "wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine." When German publishers Rütten and Loening wished to translate The Hobbit from English, they wrote him, inquiring whether his name was of "Aryan" origin. Tolkien’s reply dripped scorn:

I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is, Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.


8,059 posted on 01/22/2003 6:38:12 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: g'nad
Thanks! I needed that extra big fuse!
8,060 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:15 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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