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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: ksen
Are you listening to Glenn Beck? He's telling the story of the crucifixion accompanied by Pink Floyd's The Wall.

At least I think that's what it is.

26,861 posted on 04/18/2003 7:22:42 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Are you listening to Glenn Beck? He's telling the story of the crucifixion accompanied by Pink Floyd's The Wall.

Yeah, I'm listening. That was pretty neat. I think the song was from Dark Side of the Moon.

Yeah, I just checked, it was the song "Time" from Dark Side of the Moon.

I've heard that if watch The Wizard of Oz and you start Dark Side of the Moon when the MGM lion makes his third(?) roar that the music and the movie are in sync with each other.

I think Glenn Beck is a [FR 5th Amendment]. Back during the duct tape/three days supply of food and water thing he mentioned that according to his religion he needs to have a year's worth of supplies stocked away. I believe [FR 5th Amendment]ism teaches its followers to do that.

26,862 posted on 04/18/2003 7:45:48 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: ksen
I'm pretty sure you're right about the [5th Amendment]ism.
26,863 posted on 04/18/2003 7:53:23 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog; g'nad; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; Dawntreader; ecurbh; ...
From here:

Follow the Yellow Rock Road

A Floydian analysis of 'The Wizard of Oz'
By HELEN KENNEDY Daily News Staff Writer

Call it Dark Side of the Rainbow.

Classic rockers are buzzing about the amazingly weird connections that leap off the screen when you play Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" as the soundtrack to "The Wizard of Oz." It sounds wacky, but there really is a bizarre synchronization there. The lyrics and music join in cosmic synch with the action, forming dozens upon dozens of startling coincidences -- the kind that make you go "Oh wow, man" even if you haven't been near a bong in 20 years.

Consider these examples: Floyd sings "the lunatic is on the grass" just as the Scarecrow begins his floppy jig near a green lawn. The line "got to keep the loonies on the path" comes just before Dorothy and the Scarecrow start traipsing down the Yellow Brick Road. When deejay George Taylor Morris at WZLX-FM in Boston first mentioned the phenom on the air six weeks ago, he touched off a frenzy. "The phones just blew off the wall. It started on a Friday, and that first weekend you couldn't get a copy of 'TheWizard of Oz' anywhere in Boston," he said. "People were staying home to check it out." It's fun, he said, because everyone knows the movie,and the album -- which spent a record-busting 591 straight weeks on the Billboard charts -- can be found in practically every record collection.

Dave Herman at WNEW-FM in New York mentioned the buzz a few weeks ago. The response -- more than 2,000 letters -- was the biggest ever in the deejay's 25-year on-air career. "It has been just unbelievable," said WNEW program director Mark Chernoff. "I've never seen anything like this." The station plans to show the movie using the album as soundtrack at a small private screening tomorrow. Rock fans always have loved to speculate about hidden messages in their favorite albums. But seeking connections between the beloved 1939 classic kid flick and the legendary 1973 acid-rock album pushes the envelope of the music conspiracy genre.

Nobody from the publicity-shy band would comment, but Morris asked keyboardist Richard Wright about it on the air last month. He looked flummoxed and said he'd never heard of any intentional connections between the movie and the album. But the fans aren't convinced it's just a cosmic coincidence. "I'm a musician myself and I know how hard it is just to write music, let alone music choreographed to action," said drummer Alex Harm, of Lowell, Mass.,who put up one of the two Internet web pages devoted to the synchroneities. "To make it match up so well, you'd have to plan it." Morris is convinced that ex-frontman Roger Waters planned the whole thing without letting his fellow band members in on the secret. "It's too close. It's just too close. Look at the song titles. Look at the cover. There's something going on there," Morris said.

Here's how it works. You start the album at the exact moment when the MGM lion finishes its third and last roar. It might take a few times to get everything lined up just right. Then, just sit back and watch. It'll blow your mind, man. During "Breathe," Dorothy teeters along a fence to the lyric: "balanced on the biggest wave."

The Wicked Witch, in human form, first appears on her bike at the same moment a burst of alarm bells sounds on the album. During "Time," Dorothy breaks into a trot to the line: "no one told you when to run."

When Dorothy leaves the fortuneteller to go back to her farm, the album is playing: "home, home again." Glinda, the cloyingly saccharine Good Witch of the North, appears in her bubble just as the band sings: "Don't give me that do goody goody bull---t." A few minutes later, the Good Witch confronts the Wicked Witch as the band sings, "And who knows which is which" (or is that "witch is witch"?).

The song "Brain Damage" starts about the same time as the Scarecrow launches into "If I Only Had a Brain." But it's not just the weird lyrical coincidences. Songs end when scenes switch, and even the Munchkins' dancing is perfectly choreographed to the song "Us and Them."

The phenomenon is at its most startling during the tornado scene, when the wordless singing in "The Great Gig in the Sky" swells and recedes in strikingly perfect time with the movie. When Dorothy opens the door into Oz, the movie switches to rich color and -- and that exact moment -- the album starts in with the tinkling cash register sound effects from "Money." Anyone who has ever nursed a hangover watching MTV with the sound off and the radio on can tell you how quick the brain is to turn music into a soundtrack for pictures. But this is uncanny. The real fanatics will point out that side one of the vinyl album is the exact length of the black-and-white portion of the movie. And then there's that iconic album cover, with its prism and rainbow echoing the movie's famous black-and-white-into-color switch -- not to mention Judy Garland's classic first song.

The real clincher, though, the moment where even the most skeptical of cynics has to utter a small "whoa!," comes at the end of the album, which tails off with the insistent sound of a beating heart. What's happening on screen? Yep, you guessed it: Dorothy's got her ear to the Tin Man's chest, listening for a heartbeat. Maybe it's just a string of coincidences. Maybe the mind is just playing some really cool tricks. Maybe some people just have waaaay too much time on their hands.

Or maybe, as Pink Floyd sings to close out the album, everything under the sun really is in tune.

For your edification(?)

26,864 posted on 04/18/2003 7:59:59 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: ksen
Note to self: By copy of Dark Side of the Moon. Also pick up supplies for Irish Car Bombs...
26,865 posted on 04/18/2003 8:07:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Sheesh! Our Easter Sunday lunch plans just changed. We were supposed to go to my s-i-l's for lunch after church. Family will be here from Greensboro, gonna do an egg hunt for the kids, etc.

But my b-i-l panicked (literally) that there would be 22 people at the house. My s-i-l was doing a ham and we were bringing everything else.

My b-i-l needs to get a real life. 22 people is just a start with my family...

26,866 posted on 04/18/2003 8:11:00 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: ksen
Cool dude.... been there, done that!
26,867 posted on 04/18/2003 8:13:19 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Have you ever noticed that a lot of Glenn's callers sound suspiciously like Stu? ;^)
26,868 posted on 04/18/2003 8:36:34 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Wneighbor; HairOfTheDog; Sam Cree; osagebowman; Corin Stormhands; Overtaxed
Pipe's fixed! Here is the "after" picture. Note the dry floor!!

I currently have a fan (not the one I hit the girl with) blowing underneath the sink into the holes and when I see that it is dry enough, we'll close up the floor of the cabinet and put an access panel where the sheetrock is. Should be a few days, at least.

We have to also repair the exterior of our house. We still have insulation from when we repaired our shop, I will just have to buy a piece of masonite siding...I have paint too, although it won't be the same color as the rest of the house. It'll do for now.

Here's the exterior damage...

The Chaplain's pictures have arrived!! I'll post some as soon as I can!

26,869 posted on 04/18/2003 8:37:51 AM PDT by 2Jedismom ('The commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time')
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To: 2Jedismom
Oooohh, is that Tom Ridge Duct Tape(C) and Tom Ridge Plastic Sheeting(C) that you used on the outside of the house?

I'm so glad you guys got out of having to do some EXPENSIVE repairs to your home.
26,870 posted on 04/18/2003 8:45:32 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: ksen
As a matter of fact, it IS!! I'm so glad I was prepared! We had water, duct tape and plastic sheeting right on hand. And it's supposed to storm here in a bit.
26,871 posted on 04/18/2003 8:48:22 AM PDT by 2Jedismom ('The commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time')
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To: ksen
Must be something in the phone lines.
26,872 posted on 04/18/2003 8:51:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: 2Jedismom; Wneighbor
I have paint too, although it won't be the same color as the rest of the house.

Plant some mint in front of it!

26,873 posted on 04/18/2003 8:53:11 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Good idea!!

Oh my stars, I'm so relieved. I can handle the rest.
26,874 posted on 04/18/2003 8:55:56 AM PDT by 2Jedismom ('The commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time')
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To: Overtaxed
Do you remember where you look on the web to determine what car prices should be, OT?
26,875 posted on 04/18/2003 8:58:51 AM PDT by Sam Cree (liberals are the axis of evil)
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To: 2Jedismom
I'm so happy for you - that this turned out to be nothing too expensive or complicated!
26,876 posted on 04/18/2003 9:00:35 AM PDT by RosieCotton (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands; ksen
Did you guys see the thread with a parody of CNN discovering what Jesus actually looked like?

It's funny, but I am afraid to link to it for fear that it might actually be offensive instead of funny. It kind of offends everyone, I think.
26,877 posted on 04/18/2003 9:01:31 AM PDT by Sam Cree (liberals are the axis of evil)
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To: 2Jedismom
Great that it was only that little joint. What a lot of troubel though. All's well that ends well.
26,878 posted on 04/18/2003 9:03:19 AM PDT by Sam Cree (liberals are the axis of evil)
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To: Sam Cree; ksen
You can freepmail me the link if you want Sam. I think God has a sense of humor (for heaven's sake, look at the elves). Especially where stupid human behavior is concerned.
26,879 posted on 04/18/2003 9:08:06 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: Sam Cree; 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog; ksen
Great that it was only that little joint.

heh, heh, heh....he said "joint"...

26,880 posted on 04/18/2003 9:09:08 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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