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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Oh...and another thing...I thought PJ absolutely CAPTURED Smeagol. OK, a couple of the looks on the face were a bit over the top...but that was DAMN masterful. The arguing with himself was PERFECT!!!! (more later, I'm entertaining...)
1,581 posted on 12/21/2002 8:45:28 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Never mind my earlier post! :)

Thanks for your take on TTT.

1,582 posted on 12/21/2002 8:45:40 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
OK - more later then, Scott! - Glad you had a good time!
1,583 posted on 12/21/2002 8:47:28 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: RMDupree
Little girls can scream like nazgul can't they? - The real Nazgul screams are Fran Walsh, you know. If I had the power to do that, I imagine I would win most arguments!
1,584 posted on 12/21/2002 8:49:24 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
Well folks, I am beat after today's adventure.

I'll check in tomorrow if I can. :)

Hair, what time did ecurbh finally get finished up last night? Or should I say, this morning? *grin*

1,585 posted on 12/21/2002 8:49:51 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
Yes, he did... It is quite an involved process... stay tuned!
1,586 posted on 12/21/2002 8:50:52 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah, I laughed when I heard Phillipa say that they told Fran that PJ had just got the movie rights to The Simarillion to get that scream. :)

Becky's were high and shrill, just like that.

1,587 posted on 12/21/2002 8:51:28 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yes, he did...

By 3 o'clock this afternoon, right? (Just kidding!)

It is quite an involved process...

No doubt! I was intimidated by it.

stay tuned!

Will do! Let me know if I can assist in any way.

1,588 posted on 12/21/2002 8:54:39 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
Oh - you did ask "what time did he finish?" not "did he finish?" Heh... I don't know the answer!
1,589 posted on 12/21/2002 8:58:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
It doesn't matter what time, actually. But what a labor of love that must be! Whew!

I've got to get some sleep. See you tomorrow, Hair.

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Good night, to all of my dear Hobbit Hole friends!

Safe journey to those on the road, peace to the hearts of those who are troubled and comfort to those who are weary.

Here's a nightlight.


Scotland - East Lothian Garvald - Nunrow Abbey

1,590 posted on 12/21/2002 9:06:23 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
Good night Ruthy! - I am calling it a night too!
1,591 posted on 12/21/2002 9:08:24 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
It is the wee hours, and after a very long day I am about to head to bed. But what a day. Of course TTT was the central part of this day for me, and I will try (in my tired and weakened state) to describe my thoughts about this incredible experience.

Words simply fail me in my search for a description about how much I admire the art of this movie. Like everyone else here, I see very clearly where the move (like FotR before it) strayed from the text. But even more than in FotR, I see the reasons why these variances were necessary.

I predicted beforehand that TTT would be the greatest fantasy/adventure movie of all time. Part of that prediction came from my own personal taste -- TTT has always been my favorite portion of the trilogy, and as a result I believed it would make the most convincing movie presentation. After seeing the movie, I do believe it surpasses the other great movies of this genre -- but also, I now think that we have been set up for a finale that is likely to surpass everything we have seen thus far.

With the exception of a few examples of modern indulgence (such as the Legolas snowboard down the stairs at Helm's Deep, or the Arwen dream sequences) we were presented with a near perfect rendition, on the silver screen at any rate, of the essential story in TTT.

To counter-balance those pieces we had moments like Legolas' magnificent mounting of the horse in the battle with the scouts before Helm's Deep. (An event that left my wife literally breathtaken -- such a swift moment, but so powerful in its expression of the abilities and characteristics of elves).

I am most amazed by the presentation of the part of TTT that least affected me in the book: The journey of Frodo and Sam through the marshes to the Black Gate. Here, the character of Smeagol draws the greatest attention (rightfully so), but I do believe we see the most poignant portrayal of Frodo and Samwise -- a credit to the actors. As a man, the great pursual and battle scenes thrill me, but as a thinking man, the psychological struggles of the strange trinity of Frodo, Sam and Smeagol keep drawing me to that less physical and more spiritual battle. They steal the show, even from the great battles of Helm's Deep and Isengard.

The Ents absolutely captivated my wife (who has not the read the books) -- though the battle of Isengard disappointed me just a little (I bet the director's cut is better, and I know what Hair means when she says that she can see where the dialogue was edited out). But my wife thought that was spectacular -- so we can see what PJ was up to in creating a movie that would to those not intimate with the books.

I have much more to say about this movie -- but I will let it go for now (it's late and this post is ridiculously long already).

1,592 posted on 12/22/2002 1:30:41 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Long Cut
However, the children WITH ADULTS were well-behaved. It was the ones on their own that drove us nuts.

The only ones I noticed on their own were teenagers and they were pretty well behaved. But then, this was at a sold-out show on opening day so chances are that they're Tolkien freaks. :)

I have no idea when the official DVD(s) are going to be released but I expect someone will tell us.

1,593 posted on 12/22/2002 4:46:01 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Long Cut
I'm so sorry to hear that. Big'ol_Freeper and I will be returning to the theater this afternoon for a second viewing due to the exact same circumstances! I spoke to the manager after our infuriating experience. He was busily helping the concession stand kids deal with the 8 PM opening day crowd, and he said there was nothing he could do about unattended teenagers. "What about limiting the number of them in any given theater", I asked. "Nothing I can do about it," he shrugged. "Is this, or is this not, your theater? Who is in charge of this place, then?" The look he gave me said, "Ma'am, I really have to get back to filling popcorn bags." No offer for a refund, courtesy soda, or anything. I really hate that theater.

So let it be known to Marylanders and the entire east coast that REGAL CINEMAS does not empower their managers to engage in quality control, nor do they hire vertebrates. In contrast LOWE'S CINEMAS fell all over itself when we went to see Die Another Day by giving us coupons for free sodas when we had to stand in line to enter the theater and wait for the slackers they hired to finish cleaning the theater. It was fantastic service and their seats were more comfortable!

1,594 posted on 12/22/2002 4:48:41 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
Good Morning, Lil'freeper!

Are we the only ones up? Maybe if we rattle some pans in the kitchens, it'll bring those slug-a-beds out of their hobbit holes.
1,595 posted on 12/22/2002 4:57:10 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Good morning Scott!

I am glad you were satisfied with the art of the movie, and most of the content!

Wasn't Legolas mounting the horse something!? WOW! - Our audience cheered and clapped.

"Frodo, Sam and Smeagol keep drawing me to that less physical and more spiritual battle. They steal the show."

I sigh, and agree. Couldn't say it better.

I am glad your wife liked the ents, they would be a tough sell to someone who hasn't read the books. Talking trees in anything other than a comedy are something that are hard to pull off.

I loved Frodo (predictably) and Sam, who really came out this film. I just love Gollum's face when he brings back the conies. That part was perfectly done!

And I liked Legolas still, for his wow moments. The shield-boarding scene is just as over-the-top as the falling staircase scene in FoTR, but at least it doesn't last as long! I loved the humor in this one between the three. I will probably see it again tonight, IF I behave and get my shopping done.
1,596 posted on 12/22/2002 5:34:53 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
Slug a beds? - It is only 5:36 in the morning!

Hullo!
1,597 posted on 12/22/2002 5:36:51 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good Morning! Well not all hobbits are on the Left Coast. Just fixed myself some eggs ans sausages.
1,598 posted on 12/22/2002 6:15:59 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
I want waffles and eggs, but I am out of maple syrup. Have to wait till 7:00 :~(
1,599 posted on 12/22/2002 6:20:44 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Eggses and sausages with biscuitses.....
1,600 posted on 12/22/2002 6:23:23 AM PST by Overtaxed
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