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To: Non-Sequitur
I guess that depends on how you define "re-enforce", now doesn't it? Beauregard stated that Sumter was quiet b/c of lack of supplies. He expected once arms, food, ammo were brought to Sumter, they Union would attack....and rightly so - they were positioning.

Lincoln disregarded Buchanan's agreement with Pickens and Sumter. Scott informed his commander of the agreement, but Lincoln disregarded, did not care, or decided against it.

Lincoln's back was against the wall. He made campaign promises to take back Federal property - he had to do something.

151 posted on 11/26/2002 7:18:22 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Lincoln disregarded Buchanan's agreement with Pickens and Sumter. Scott informed his commander of the agreement, but Lincoln disregarded, did not care, or decided against it.

Wrong.

Bruce Catton makes plain in "The Coming Fury" that Buchanan's policy and Lincoln's were seamless from after Floyd and the other traitors were ejected right around the new year, 1861.

Walt

152 posted on 11/26/2002 7:40:21 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: stainlessbanner
He expected once arms, food, ammo were brought to Sumter, they Union would attack....and rightly so - they were positioning.

Attack what? Attack how? Had the resupply force landed the few hundred men they had onboard would Charleston be more threatened? Had Lincoln managed to cram 10,000 men into Sumter would that have posed a greater risk to the confederacy? Of course not. Fort Sumter was a symbol only. A symbol for Lincoln of the U.S. presence in the rebellious states, and the same thing for Davis. The question was which side was ready to go to war over that symbol and the answer was the confederacy.

Lincoln disregarded Buchanan's agreement with Pickens and Sumter.

What agreement was that?

Lincoln's back was against the wall. He made campaign promises to take back Federal property - he had to do something.

That makes no sense. Lincoln was holding on to something that belonged to the government. He wasn't taking anything. He was keeping.

155 posted on 11/26/2002 8:09:48 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
Lincoln's back was against the wall. He made campaign promises to take back Federal property - he had to do something.

No state seceded prior to Lincoln's election. That's some pretty fuzzy thinking on your part.

Walt

156 posted on 11/26/2002 8:15:42 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: stainlessbanner
He expected once arms, food, ammo were brought to Sumter, they Union would attack....and rightly so - they were positioning.

LOL. You are such a joke. Anderson and his 62 men in Sumter were going to attack South Carolina? Come on man.

Lincoln's back was against the wall. He made campaign promises to take back Federal property - he had to do something.

That is absolutly amazing. I know Lincoln was a smart guy, but I never realized that he had perfected time travel. What property needed "taken back" during the 1860 Campaign? The first properties were not siezed until late December, a month and a half after the election. How in the hell could Lincoln make a campaign promise to undo something that had not even happened yet?

Do you just make this crap up as you go?

158 posted on 11/26/2002 10:45:56 AM PST by Ditto
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