[LS]

Yes, exactly right. I sat in an American Historical Association panel many years ago with several of the new "Marxist" historians, including Eric Foner and Sean Wilentz (names that should be familiar to Freepers), and they all set up Lincoln as the antithesis to "good socialism." High praise indeed!

[stand watie]

lincoln, the GREAT bloodspiller,tyrant & war criminal was not a socialist, just a cheap politician. the USA would not see his equal until wee willie klintoon took up his mantle.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ & personal power was/is the ONLY things important to either one.