To: Maelstrom
However, if you insist that socialism is an international phenomenon and not a nationalist phenomenon, why then, ALL socialist nations are in fact fascist instead. I'm saying in its purest form that Socialism is international in nature and that it posits the brotherhood of all workers. Hitler didn't care a fig about that. The international nature of pure socialism would by definition, preclude nationalism.
I'm not saying that you can't apply socialist principals to national units. I'm sorry if I gave any other impression.
Walt
To: WhiskeyPapa
Hitler didn't try to take over the world?
HAHAHAHAHA
Pathetic.
You *still* haven't shown any meaningful distinction between Socialism and Fascism.
To: WhiskeyPapa
I'm not saying that you can't apply socialist principals to national units. I'm sorry if I gave any other impression.
You must realize, absent any meaningful separtion between Socialism and it's implementation as Nazism, that you *are* saying that socialist principles in national units, such as Germany, the former USSR, the PRC, are fascist, and in your opinion, the exact opposite of socialism?
(That's what I meant when I said, "pathetic" previously, not just that it's a rather pathetic view of history to believe that Hitler was *not* bent on global domination.)
To: WhiskeyPapa
The international nature of pure socialism would by definition, preclude nationalism. The universally accepted textbook definition of pure socialism - "control of the means of production by the people" - says absolutely nothing of an "international nature," Walt.
Even then, nationalism does NOT preclude an international nature IF a national state asserts itself into international dominance. If a certain socialist state or alliance around that state is all that there is globally, nationalism to that state is itself one and the same with a profession of globalism.
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