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To: TexConfederate1861
I am as patriotic as you, possibly more so

Somehow, that statement seems less than genuine from someone who advocates the armed overthrow of the United States Government. I'm waiting for you next to cast Sophocles' Oedipus as a prime exponent of filial piety.

Two of my Grandfathers fought Nazi Germany, and the comparison was only in the respect that Hitler was smug enough to believe things could never change.

You don't get off that easy.

1. The good deeds of your grandparents do not excuse your own misdeeds.

2. Why Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia? You could have used less provocative comparisons, and you would have too had you not intended to compare the two Evil Empires to the United States of America. Your denials wring hollow.

3. The founding fathers believed in the right of secession, and most wrote about that right.

Really? Please provide evidence to that effect.

the most logical way to SAVE the country may be to divide.

This is, I assume, the "it became necessary to destroy the country in order to save it" line of "reasoning". Well, it has become necessary to inform you that your mind is not operating on all cylinders.

I am a veteran of the United States Navy, Honorably Discharged, etc. SO...I would be careful who you imply as a traitor. Very Carefu0l.

Whoppy foo. Timothy McVeigh and John Muhammed were also honorably discharged servicemen. Your service, while comendable, does not excuse your current actions. I am a wounded and decorated combat vet and see absolutely no reason to treat you with anything other than contempt.

602 posted on 11/16/2002 9:29:52 AM PST by andy_card
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To: andy_card
OK jerk....the gloves are off...I have NEVER advocated the overthrow of the US Government. I believe that the only credible way to secede would be thru the ballot box. If the "late war" has shown me anything, it is the idea that the South cut it's own throat by taking recourse to war, what it could have had by peaceful means.

If you are the combat veteran you say, you should be ashamed to insult another veteran. Especially by implying treason, or comparing me to a cold-blooded killer such as McVeigh, etc.

That is just about the lowest crap I have had the misfortune to read on this forum. (And I thought Walt was bad!)

My view is that if this government could be reformed to the way it was intended by the founding fathers, then great. If not...then the states should secede by PEACEFUL means...

Now. I have said my say. You sir, owe this veteran an apology.
649 posted on 11/16/2002 8:16:18 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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