[rdb3]

One will not know where they are going if they don't know where they have been. Face it. The South was right.

You've lost your damned mind. Any nation that had slavery incorporated into its founding constitution was in no way correct. The CSA did exactly that. And it is the very definition of hypocrisy to say that a nation would be "free" while having laws that even set the price of slaves in its founding documents! That stain is indelible. That nation would not be free at all. It's like being "a little bit pregnant;" you either are or you are not.

So, please, you got what you wanted but you lost what you had. There's scant sympathy from me.

And, as I said, it's the 21^st century. The days of the 19^th are long gone. If as much time were spent discussing today's issues as there are being wasted on what happened well over 100 years ago, maybe there'd be some real solutions. The continuous fighting of a war that ended long ago is downright idiotic.

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[WhiskeyPapa]

The continuous fighting of a war that ended long ago is downright idiotic.

Your frustration is well founded. Someone yesterday said that these endless ACW threads were like the energizer bunny. They just keep going and going. And no matter how much the record of the day is posted, the same old people will try and skew the perception to cleanse the slave power.

"Face it. The South was right."

That is grotesque.

This is all important to the degree that perception of the past affects our actions in the future. I don't think we can afford to yield the ground to the racist neo-rebs.

Also, it betrays the memory of the brave Union soldiers, black and white, north and south, if we let the lies continue.

It always strikes me funny that the neo-rebs pine over the oh-so-honorable Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and the rest, but then will tell the most bold faced lies about what happened before and during the ACW.

Walt

[CWRWinger]

Do you have a moral basis for slavery being wrong? If so I would like to see it, seriously.

Most quote their history teachers, their parents, the Washington Post, laws of the land, but these are political and legal reasons.

[GOPcapitalist]

You've lost your damned mind. Any nation that had slavery incorporated into its founding constitution was in no way correct.

Then do you favor the repeal of the United States Constitution?

[jude24]

And, as I said, it's the 21st century. The days of the 19th are long gone. If as much time were spent discussing today's issues as there are being wasted on what happened well over 100 years ago, maybe there'd be some real solutions. The continuous fighting of a war that ended long ago is downright idiotic.

But it's our heratige..... < /whiny sarcasm >

Dang, it's refreshing to see some common sense about the Civil War.

[Aurelius]

"And, as I said, it's the 21st century. The days of the 19th are long gone. If as much time were spent discussing today's issues as there are being wasted on what happened well over 100 years ago, maybe there'd be some real solutions. The continuous fighting of a war that ended long ago is downright idiotic.

Let me remind us all of a famous quote:

"My country right or wrong: when right, to keep her right; when wrong, to put her right." (Carl Schurz, in a speech before the U.S. Senate. February 29, 1872).

Chattel slavery, we can all agree, was a wrong. It was eliminated, although perhaps not "put right" because it was simply replaced by other forms of slavery; most notably the so-called "income tax" (which is primarily a tax on wages, rather than on income). But the wrong committed by the federal government in denying the Southern states their right of self-determinatin has never even been acknowledged, much less put right If and when it is, then we will be able to put it behind us and move on to current matters.

[groanup]

"You've lost your damned mind. Any nation that had slavery incorporated into its founding constitution was in no way correct. The CSA did exactly that. And it is the very definition of hypocrisy to say that a nation would be "free" while having laws that even set the price of slaves in its founding documents! That stain is indelible. That nation would not be free at all. It's like being "a little bit pregnant;" you either are or you are not."

Slavery was guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution at the time. Why would the South go to war over it? Ya can look it up. PUNISH THIS!