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"I am with the South in life or in death, in victory or defeat. I never owned a negro … In addition to this, I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who have done them no wrong, in violation of the constitution and the fundamental principles of the government. They no longer acknowledge that all government derives its validity from the consent of the governed."

"Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late...It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of
the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision…"

"It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties."

-Gen Patrick Cleburne, CSA

[Maelstrom]

Can you give me a cite for the General's quote?

Is it in a paper, a book, where and when he said it would be useful.

[A2J]

"It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties."

The accuracy of these words is amazing.

The legacy of Lincoln: Sparing the Union? No. Upholding the Constitution? No. Enlarging and empowering a centralized government that steals rights and liberties. YES!