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To: WhiskeyPapa; Jim Robinson
Based on the info I had in 1992, I would for Clinton over Bush 10 times out of 10.

Just shows how a lot of people can be so stupid to be manipulated by the the media. And in your case, willingly.

1,543 posted on 12/09/2002 6:03:56 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Based on the info I had in 1992, I would for Clinton over Bush 10 times out of 10.

Just shows how a lot of people can be so stupid to be manipulated by the the media. And in your case, willingly.

Ditto made some good points regarding the start of the Gulf War and Saddam's actions.

I had forgotten that he was badly in debt to Kuwait. As Ditto pointed out, a good way to repudiate that debt was to kill the bankers or destroy the banks. If you think about it, that is what the so-called CSA attempted too.

Yes, a May, 1861 act of the congress of the so-called CSA required that --private-- debt owed to --private-- creditors be paid directly to the rebel treasury. This amount was reckoned at over $200,000,000. In the event, partiotic fervor only brought in about $8,000,000. But the point is the same. Ambassador Glaspie gave Saddam a message -- the U.S. would be concerned about a use of force. He chose to ignore it.

President Lincoln sent the south a message in his inaugural address --"this government will constitutionally maintain itself." The slave power decided to ignore that. Hopefully, Saddam will yet regret his actions as much as the secessionists came to regret theirs, and he will be thrown down as low as they were.

But there is still a lot of unlovely baggage that attaches itself to Bush I.

He was fully conversant with all the trading of arms for hostages -- he denied that at the time, and got away with it. He was found out later. You may recall that he pardoned five convicted felons just before he left office. That was part of the Iran-Contra affair.

The nub of the Iran-Contra affair, as you may recall, was that the Reagan administration was shipping weapons to Iran and using the cash to fund the Contras. That was a blatant 'contra-vention' of the Constitution. I figured Bush was lying about his knowledge of that, and that alone was enough not to vote for him.

Walt

1,551 posted on 12/10/2002 7:15:23 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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