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I never said anything like that. I said that in its purest form the brotherhood of workers would be worldwide. This was an idea popular 80-90 years ago in this country. The IWW was an agent of this; several of its leaders were lynched.

Oh...am I to understand then that you are no longer even making an attempt to differentiate socialism and Nazi-ism? However, this *was* your response when challenged to differentiate socialism and Nazi-ism. It's weak, and it doesn't differentiate socialist policy from Nazi policy.

Nationalists want people to have loyalty to nations. That is incompatible with a brotherhood of all workers. That's all I ever said.

A brotherhood of workers only included humans. In Hitler's view, these were Aryans alone. Thus, we actually have the *MOST* purely Socialist government in Nazi-ism by THAT claim.

Hitler's calling the party national-socialist was clever, but it wasn't honest. Can we agree that Hitler was not honest?

Can we look at Hitler's actions rather than his rhetoric? Perhaps honesty is less important than the revealing aspect of action. Nonetheless, Hitler's choice (if indeed it WAS his choice) of name for the nationalist-socialist party was entirely apropo as long as the only humans were Aryans. His actions certainly reflected his belief that Aryans were the only humans...so does his rhetoric. I suppose even a troll has to admit that a liar tells the truth once in awhile.

I never said anything like that. I said that in its purest form the brotherhood of workers would be worldwide. This was an idea popular 80-90 years ago in this country. The IWW was an agent of this; several of its leaders were lynched.

Oh...am I to understand then that you are no longer even making an attempt to differentiate socialism and Nazi-ism? However, this *was* your response when challenged to differentiate socialism and Nazi-ism. It's weak, and it doesn't differentiate socialist policy from Nazi policy.

Whatever. All I said was that in its purest form, socialism posited a brotherhood of workers worldwide. There was a big movement in the American northwest 70-80 years ago that pushed the "One Big Union" -- the Industrial Workers of the World. They still exist.

Labor Unions, as I understand, are a big part of socialism. Hitler outlawed them. He didn't give a fig for socialism. Calling the party the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, seems disingenuous to me. You don't buy that -- fine.

Surely we have talked this out by now.

Walt

Can we look at Hitler's actions rather than his rhetoric?

Yeah, he abolished all labor unions.

That ain't very social.

Walt