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To: Dr Warmoose
Could you tell us where we can read more about the process how information comes from no where?

I'm uncertain what the relevance of this might be. A process does not require any information beyond what is already inherent in the process. Much the same as a hurricane assembles itself via a given sequence of events (before going on to dissipate) so do higher forms of life assemble themselves via given sequences of events. The required information is already an inherent part of the process.

I am particularly interested in the formulas that says order increases in an open system.

Well, one of those appears to be the evolutionary model - and it manages to say that admirably well.

How about a link to where we can read about abiogenesis and the success in the lab in producing life from non life.

The fact that something happens even under the most extraordinary of circumstances does not mean it never happens. Even if there's only a 10 billion to 1 chance of abiogenesis at any given moment in a particular environment that simply means that you would expect to see it in only 1 out of 10 billion examples of that environment. In that event, whatever sentient beings arose from the 10 billion to 1 chance would a priori find themselves the product of that most extraordinary of circumstances.

(ie. I can smash a bug and have all of the components, in the proper proportion to produce life... so how many billion years are needed when that bug reassembles itself and flies away?)

I can smash a diamond or an obsidian into dust in the proper proportion to reproduce a diamond or an obsidian. Regardless, the likelihood of those dust particles ever reassembling themselves into a diamond or an obsidian are exceedingly dim. This does not establish that they did not do so, however, under the original circumstances while undergoing the initial process.

26 posted on 10/11/2002 9:52:13 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv
Well, we'll have an eternity to contemplate it. Where will you spend your eternity? You worship your god on a stick if you want, but don't let your peg-leg deceive you...
67 posted on 10/11/2002 10:39:19 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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