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To: Sherlock
Here is what I found in the Old and New Testament. Plus I have a couple of comments after the passages of scriptures, and some links, if you are truly interested in finding out about the temple, both today and in ancient times. If you have more questions, let's take this to FReepmail, I hate to hijack the thread anymore than I already have. :)

Acts 2:38 -47
[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
[41] Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
[42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
[43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
[44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
[46 ] And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
[47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 5:42
[42] And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

Matthew 21: 12-15
[12] And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
[13] And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
[14] And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.

Luke 24:53
[51] And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
[52] And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
[53] And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

Matthew 23:21
[16] Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
[17] Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
[18] And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
[19] Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
[20] Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
[21] And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
[22] And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
[23 ] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
[24] Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

And here are the passages of scripture that say the temples and the ordinances will be restored in the last days.

Isaiah 2:2-4
[2] And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
[3 ] And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
[4] And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Revelation 7:15
[15] Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Malachi 3:1-3
[1] Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to this temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
[2] But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
[3] And he shall sit as a refiner and purifer of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

Ezekiel 37:26-27
[26] Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
[27] My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

********************************************************* In my studies and searching over the years, I've found that the early Christians were also persecuted for having secret ceremonies, etc.

The early Christian Lactantius wrote:
"God orders us in quietness and silence to hide His secret and to keep it within our own conscience. . . . For a mystery ought to be most faithfully concealed and covered, especially by us, who bear the name of faith. But they accuse this silence of ours, as though it were the result of an evil conscience; whence they also invent some detestable things respecting those who are holy and blameless."
(Lactantius, Divine Institutes, VII, 26, in Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, editors, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 10 vols., Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1987, as cited by Peterson and Ricks, p. 112.)

This is an excellent website that has links to many references of both LDS authors and non-LDS authors who have written about ancient Christianity and today's practices. Again, if you have any questions, feel free to FReepmail me privately.

This website has some excellent links, the majority of it has to do with Freemasons and the LDS church, but the first 1/3 or so deals with early Christianity and latter-day practices and temples

172 posted on 08/26/2002 5:55:12 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
With all due respect...I think I can clarify the verses.

Acts 2:38-47

Jewish believers at first did not separate from the rest of the Jewish community. They still went to Temple and synagogues for worship and instruction in God's Word.But their belief in Jesus crated great friction with Jews who didn't beieve Jesus was the Messiah. Thus believing Jews were forced to meet in private homes for commmunion, prayer, and teaching about Jesus. by the end of the first century, many of these Jewish believers were excommunicated fro their synagogues altogether.

Acts 5:42

Home Bible studies are not new. The Apostles had to teach in homes because the synagogues and the Temple were not open to their teaching .Home Bible studies met the needs of believers and also introduced people to the Christian faith. During later times of persecution, this became the primary method of passing on Bible knowlege. Christians throughout the world still use Home Bible study as a way to build up believers.

Matthew 21:12-15

This is the second time Jesus cleared the Timple (see John 2:13-25) Merchants and moneychangers set up their booths in the Court of the Gentiles in the Temple, filling it with their wares instead of allowing it to be filled with Gentiles who had come to worship God. The merchants sold sacrificial animals at hight prices, taking advantage of those who had come long distances. The moneychangers exchanged all secular currency for Temple currency..the ony kind of money the merchants would accept. They often decieved foreigners who didn't iknow the exchange rate. Not only were the merchants and moneychangers deshonest...they also took advantage of those who had come to worship God. Their commercialism in God's house frustrated people's attempts at worship. This, of course, greatly angered Jesus. Any practice that interfers with worshiping God should be stopped.

Luke 24:53

Luke's Gospel portrays Jesus as the perfect example of a life lived according to God's plan...as a child with the religious leaders in the timple, as a young man living without sine, as an adult serving God and other's and in his death suffering without complaint.This emphasis was well suited to the Greek audience, who placed high value on examples and seft improvement and who often discussed the meaning of perfection. The Greeks however, had a hard time understanding the spiritual importance of the physical world. To them, the spiritual was always more important than the physical. To help them understand the God-man who united the spiritual and the physical, Luke emphasised that Jesus was not a phantom but a real human being, who healed and fed people because he was concerned with their physical health as well as the state of their souls. As unbelievers living acording to God's plan, we too should obey our Lord in every detail as we seek to restore people's bodies and souls to the health and salvation God has in store for them. If we want to know how to live a perfect life, we can look to Jesus as our example.

Matthew 23:21

Jesus mentioned 7 ways to guarantee God's anger, often called the "Seven Woes". These seven statements about the religious leaders must have been spoken with a mixed tone of judgement and sorrow. They were strong and unforgettable.They are still applicable any time we become so involved in perfecting the practice of religion that we forget that god is also concerned with mercy, real love, and forgiveness. Verse 21..speaks of blindly lelading God's people to follow man made traditions INSTEAD of God' Word.

Isaiah 2:2-4

God gave Isaiah the gift of seeing the future. Here God showed Isaiah what would eventually happen to Jerusalem. Rev. 21 depicts the glorious fulfilment of this prophecy in the new earth, where only those whose names are written in God's book will be allowed to enter. God made a covenant (promise) with his people and will never break it. This prophecy gives the people hpoe for the future.

Revalation 7:15

it is difficult to imagine how blood could whiten any cloth, but the blood of Jesus Christ is the world's greatest purifier because it removes the stain of sin. White symbolizes sinless perfection or holiness, which can be given to people ony by the sacrifice and shed blood of the sinless Lamb of God. This is a pictue of how we are saved by faith. (Romans 3:21-26)God will provide for his children's needs in thier eternal home, where there will be no hunger, thirst, or pain, and He will wipe away all tears. When you are suffering or torn apart by sorrow, take comfort in this truth.

Malachi 3:1-3

There are two messages in this verse. The first is usually understood to be John the Baptist...The second messenger is Jesus, the Messiah, for whom both Malachi and John the Baptist prepared the way. In the process of refining metals, the raw metal is heated with fire until it melts. The impurities separate from it and rist to the surface. They are then skimmed off, leaving the pure metal. Without this heating and melting, there could be no purifying. As the impurities are skimmed off the top, the reflection of the metalurgist appears n the smooth pure surface. As we are purified by God, his relflection in our lives will become more and more clear to those around us. God says that leaders should be especially open to the purification process in their lives.

Ezekiel 37:26-27

God's promise here goes beyond the physical and geographical restoration of Israel. He promises to breath new spiritual life into his people so that their hearts and attitudes will be right with him. This same processis described throught God's word as the clensing of our hearts by God's spirit.

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178 posted on 08/26/2002 7:16:36 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Utah Girl
1) The scriptures in Matthew, Luke, and Acts all refer to Herod's temple, the Jewish temple that was destroyed by the Roman invasion by Titus in 70 AD.

2) The Isaiah reference is the milleneal temple, the 1000 year reign where all nations will serve the Lord. In verse 3 it says he will reign from this temple in Jerusalem. In vs. 4, the world hasn't beaten its swords into plowshares yet. Reference to the millenium is when Jesus will rule and reign on the earth following the Great Tribulation, which is the 70th week of Daniel, when God will again focus on the nation of Israel. Christians will be in heaven for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb and will return with the Lord at his 2nd coming. Other references Jesus reigning from Jerusalem in the millennium:
Jeremiah 33: 15-22 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch (Jesus) of righteousness to grow up into David, and he shall execute judgement and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely, etc. This again is a promise to Israel.
Zechariah 14: 16-21 And it shall come to pass that every one that is left of all the nations which came up against Jerusalem (in the battle of Armageddon at the end of the Tribulation) shall even go up from year to year and worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles, etc.

3) Revelation 7:15 is the congregation in heaven, not an earthly temple. Note vs. 11, All the angels stood around, about the elders, and the four beasts (living creatures). These are all described initially in Revelation 4: 2-end, in vs 2 - behold, a throne was set in heaven, vs. 6-9 describes the living creatures. These were seen in heavenly visions in the Old Testament and described as the Cheribum and the Seraphim. vs 10 the 24 elders (the church, casting down their golden crowns, He has made us priests and kings). We are in heaven after Revelation 3, the book of Revelation is God dealing with Israel in the 70th week of years, the Great Tribulation or Wrath period. We are not appointed to wrath, the church.

4) Malachi 3: 1-3 Again sees both comings in this prophecy, prophesy of John the Baptist then telescopes out to the 2nd coming to temple at the end of the Battle of Armageddon at the end of the Tribulation. The corresponding passage is Revelation 19: 7-10 the church in heaven at the marriage supper of the lamb (the bride of Christ), 11-21 the 2nd coming and battle of Armageddon, chap 20 Satan bound and cast into the bottomless pit, vs 7 says for 1000 years (the millenium, then vs 11-15 the Great White Throne Judgement at the end of the millenium, & chap 21 Heaven on earth for eternity.

Zechariah 14: 2 For I will gather the kings of the earth against Jerusalem to battle... vs. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth .... And his feet shall stand that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall cleave in two, etc.. vs 16 And it shall come to pass that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem will even go up from year to year, etc.

5) Ezekial 37: 26-27 - Ezekial chapters 36-39 is one of my favorite passages of scripture and speaks of God's dealing with the nation of Israel. In chapters 36-37 he deals with the regathering of the nation into the land. 36:19 God scattered them among the heathen, vs. 24 For I will bring you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 37:1-14 the Dry Bones prophecy, 'can these bones live' (nation of Israel) in vs 3, vs 15-25 restoration of a united kingdom, and your passage, vs 26-28 ..and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. Again this is the millenial temple in Jerusalem and it is described after the war in Chapters 38-39 (Israel restored in 39:21-29, vs 22 they shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward), in chapters 40-43 the prophet spends 4 chapters in the focus and view of this millenial temple. Sorry, but it's not your temple.

6) As far as this Lactantius fellow I'll have to look him up. But most of the New Testament was written to combat heretical teaching in the early church so it has been around from the start. There were people that followed the Apostle Paul around claiming to Christians and denied everything he had taught them and started teaching them their own doctrine. Do you know what this Lactantius did that was secret. Secrecy is always a bad sign I'm afraid to say.

I've studied the bible for 15 years and bible prophesy, which you got into with your references, is my favorite subject. This is just a taste, believe me I could type about this for the next week.
183 posted on 08/26/2002 7:33:55 PM PDT by Sherlock
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