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Defense Feldman: Danielle Van Dam Knew Her Abductor: Dusek, Still Talking...Westerfield Waiting
Union Trib ^ | August 8, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 08/07/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
All posts reporting in sir...no Jackals present...!
21 posted on 08/07/2002 7:49:28 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Dusek said. "As my dad used to say, that's a whole lot of wind sauce in your air pudding."

And Dusek still follows that recipe! Even his own daddy knew what a jerk his son is.

At one point during his summation, Dusek appeared to be having trouble finding a word and a helpful voice came from the audience to his aid. Brenda van Dam supplied the word. When Feldman objected that the audience was "assisting in closing," Mudd urged the audience to "please remain silent."

Good catch. Thanks. For some reason, my eyes skipped over that and didn't see it. If that happened during the defense's closing, the person would have been arrested probably. What a skank!


22 posted on 08/07/2002 7:50:22 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: YaYa123
What are you saying? He testified to LE for
about 19 hours total, it's on the record, the
jury will have the tapes & transcripts.

Feldman not being prepared?? He knocked the
hell outta the state's case. Bit by bit,
piece by piece.
23 posted on 08/07/2002 7:50:51 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: FresnoDA
Have you checked the perimeter thoroughly?
24 posted on 08/07/2002 7:51:01 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
forget the perimeter. did he wind up the hose?
25 posted on 08/07/2002 7:52:08 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: FresnoDA
YOUR post makes me so mad, because it's so Van Damned TRUE!
26 posted on 08/07/2002 7:53:17 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: JudyB1938
The court gallery must be an odd
lot in SD. I've never heard anyone
assist an attorney in a trial, from
the gallery. What a dip sh!t.
27 posted on 08/07/2002 7:54:01 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
Feldman not being prepared?? He knocked the hell outta the state's case. Bit by bit, piece by piece.

Yep.....and Doofus rebutted by telling jurors they should not have an independent opinion and taught them the basics of Blackjack and used car sales.

I'll take unprepared, thank you.

28 posted on 08/07/2002 7:54:51 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FresnoDA
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29 posted on 08/07/2002 7:55:10 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Some DNA info.....

Using DNA typing in legal suits is controversial in two ways. First, establishing matches between samples collected at a crime scene and those taken from a suspect is problematic. Until recently, there has been little standardization of laboratory criteria for declaring a match (Lander 1991). Similarly, from the perspective of the contestants in a given suit, human error made during the typing process can result in false matches, or in undetected matches. Second, a match is not a conclusive indicator of guilt. Because the molecular markers used in typing are shared among individuals, matches are useful only when the likelihood of being shared is very low. Moreover, this likelihood depends on allele frequencies in a reference population. Because targeted allele frequencies may vary among human populations, controversy surrounds selection of the appropriate reference population. Together, these points of controversy suggest that DNA evidence is not absolutely sufficient, alone, to indicate guilt. This seems trivial; one of the most exacting standards of proof in American jurisprudence is employed in criminal trials, in which proof of guilt is predicted on "reasonable doubt", and which rarely are conducted solely with genetic evidence.

DNA matches are only useful when they are certain, but improving the match determining power of laboratory techniques seems to involve mainly technical issues of standardizing and optimizing them to maximize their reproducibility and minimize opportunities for error. To use those results, however, one must address the chance that an error has occurred yielding either a false match, or failing to detect a true match. False matches seem to elicit more concern than failing to detect a true match. This apparent asymmetry in concern is reflected in our corresponding biased tolerance of the consequences of an error: in the case of a false match, for the accused; or for an undetected true match, for our system of justice. Despite this asymmetry, we do not employ an ultimate threshold for assigning guilt. Instead, our system allows a malleable standard of innocence: guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The current challenge of DNA evidence is to derive from it an understanding of doubt, not to use it to assign guilt.

Although we may doubt the surety of our methods for detecting all DNA matches, our willingness to tolerate type II errors means that DNA evidence is very useful for establishing innocence. If the DNA of a suspect does not match that collected at a crime scene, we take it as strong support for the suspect's innocence. When the samples do match, we must calculate the likelihood that the match was fortuitous. Essentially, this requires us to evaluate competing hypotheses that either accuse or absolve a suspect, given that the suspect's DNA matches that found at the crime scene. This is done using a likelihood ratio, which employs a Bayesian perspective to modify traditional estimates of error probability, by prior belief about the veracity of the two hypotheses. Traditional estimates of error probability depend on allele frequencies in the reference population and linkage disequilibrium among the several loci that may be used in the analysis. Inbreeding within subgroups of structured population may alter both allele frequencies and linkage disequilibrium. Human populations were until recently probably strongly structured, and the prospect that genetic traces of that structure may persist makes selection of the appropriate reference population theoretically crucial to proper estimating of traditional error probabilities. Interestingly, the sensitivity of these statistical techniques has been shown to be low (as cited in Weir and Evett 1993), by deliberately employing inappropriate reference populations with little effect. If such deliberate misapplications of the methods do not change the outcome of likelihood ratios and ultimately show that doubt in the methods of DNA typing falls within the range of "reasonable", then it seems likely that DNA evidence may be used increasingly in future trials. It may be employed increasingly to assign guilt.

Literature Cited

Lander, E. S. 1991. Lander reply. American Journal of Human Genetics 49:899-903.

Weir, B. S., and I. W. Evett. 1993. Reply to Lewontin. American Journal of Human Genetics 52:206.

30 posted on 08/07/2002 7:56:26 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: the Deejay
Somebody said one time that they thought Brenda wasn't all that smart, that Demon was the controlling one. However, her behavior today would seem to belie the little wilted flower theory, huh?
31 posted on 08/07/2002 7:56:28 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Unknown Freeper; FresnoDA
did he wind up the hose?

Alert.....alert....possible unwound hose.

32 posted on 08/07/2002 7:57:05 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
When he started in with the Blackjack, I
almost fell off my chair. And I said,
"Did I hear that right?"

When he started with the used cars, I
said, "That's all, brother. You are
toast!"

Adding that to the bad choices of words,
well I don't know what to say about this
incompetent prosecutor.
33 posted on 08/07/2002 7:57:58 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: FresnoDA
A perfect match of 25 markers means a lesser number of generations before a Most Common Recent Ancestor (MRCA) can be determined.
34 posted on 08/07/2002 7:58:04 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: JudyB1938
I've always thought Brenda was the
leader of that family.
35 posted on 08/07/2002 7:59:18 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
I don't know what to say about this incompetent prosecutor.

Well, as a taxpaying Californian, I can say I want my money back.

36 posted on 08/07/2002 8:01:43 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: JudyB1938
None of the vdams are very intelligent.
They *think* they are. They are d u m b.
37 posted on 08/07/2002 8:01:53 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"Well, as a taxpaying Californian, I can say I want my money back."

Can't blame you & you should DEMAND your
tax money back, rightfully so.


38 posted on 08/07/2002 8:03:23 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: JudyB1938
Wow...Judy...I am touched...you were a bit sore at me the other day...when we had a full scale Jackal Riot going on...LOL
39 posted on 08/07/2002 8:04:26 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: the Deejay
They're not TOO dumb. Conniving trash! They got Westerfield as the acused instead of themselves.
40 posted on 08/07/2002 8:05:48 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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