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Defense Feldman: Danielle Van Dam Knew Her Abductor: Dusek, Still Talking...Westerfield Waiting
Union Trib ^ | August 8, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 08/07/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: spectre
They will not be deliberating on the weekends, and they get Fridays off, too.
341 posted on 08/08/2002 10:10:03 AM PDT by shezza
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To: bvw
I know, and while that's often true, cases have been strongarmed. And that's all I'm saying as to that.

I don't disagree.

342 posted on 08/08/2002 10:10:13 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: YaYa123
I believe the outcome on deciding differently is that those who disagree with you and I is they have taken each piece of physical evidence separately and have found a possible innocent explanation. If you do this one at a time then you are left with no evidence.

You and I are probably looking at the existance of the combined total of physical evidence and saying "I cannot come up with a reasonable explanation that is innocent". We end up deciding between what I call the "Big Bad Wolf" vs "Goldilocks" to explain the sum total of the evidence.

Those who disagree with us will take you to task for each and every single item of evidence and individually find a contrary explanation for each piece.

That is why the rope analogy and the guy cheating at 21 examples done by Dusek were important. In his game of 21, the card player won every hand and the chances of him doing that without cheating is nill. But taken one hand at a time its possible that each he could win each individual hand. But common sense tells you that you have to be cheating if you win dozens of hands.

343 posted on 08/08/2002 10:11:42 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
The Federal gov't has a very high conviction rate. The reason is they don't prosecute unless they have overwhelming evidence to get a conviction.

V, I like you and have respect for you. You have 'stuck' in there and provide backups for your statements. Sometimes you make me think you are still 'inexperienced' with the world.

The REASON the FED GOVT has a very high conviction rate is also the same reason the SD DA has a high conviction rate. THEY CHEAT.

It has been in the news over the past year that the FBI TESTING LABS were giving POSITIVE results on tests whether they were actually POSITIVE or NEGATIVE.

Not that hard to win when you cheat all the time.

344 posted on 08/08/2002 10:12:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: shezza
They will not be deliberating on the weekends, and they get Fridays off, too. All the more time to read up on the trial, watch CourtTV, etc.
345 posted on 08/08/2002 10:13:16 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Mrs.Liberty
I had taken that to mean Danielle had gone up to put on pj's at 10pm...read to Dylen...then DVD came in and told her to go to bed.....he possibly saw them then, before she crawled into bed.

Don't really believe that as I do not believe she was in pj's but still in the clothes from the passport pic that were not found on her floor.

This is a hit and run post before leaving...have a great weekend everyone!

346 posted on 08/08/2002 10:13:27 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: connectthedots; pyx
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One Stealth Ninja Dave you can render your verdict in the Jury Room.

347 posted on 08/08/2002 10:13:38 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: VRWC_minion
Prediction, Jury comes back by Thursday next week. About the same time as closing arguments.
348 posted on 08/08/2002 10:13:50 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: connectthedots
Some members of the jury surely recognized this omission and it will obviously be the subject of much discussion.

I hope you're right.

349 posted on 08/08/2002 10:13:52 AM PDT by nycgal
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To: contessa machiaveli
Well, slap me silly! ALL you needed was the drop of blood on DW's jacket?

We could have been spared the Trial by Jury and just consulted you!! Knock, knock!

sw

350 posted on 08/08/2002 10:14:24 AM PDT by spectre
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To: VRWC_minion
Prediction...if it takes that long, it will be a hung jury. If they come back today or early Monday, DW is toast.
351 posted on 08/08/2002 10:14:44 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: spectre
So what happened just now with the reporter?
352 posted on 08/08/2002 10:14:59 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mrs.Liberty
You never know.
353 posted on 08/08/2002 10:15:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: spectre
Breath in spec....in...out....in....out....LOL
354 posted on 08/08/2002 10:16:21 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
Not that hard to win when you cheat all the time.

Trust me, cheating is not the reason they ussually win.

355 posted on 08/08/2002 10:16:41 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Rheo; All
Brenda testified that the pajamas were missing. So if Danielle wasn't wearing them, where are they?
356 posted on 08/08/2002 10:17:08 AM PDT by nycgal
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To: spectre
Let's see. Let me sum up the case for the Prosecution.

No direct Evidence. Lot's of 'invisible' evidence, including black boots, blue blanket, etc.

Fiber evidence that COULD or COULD not be proof.

Hair found in MH sink trap. 1 Hair. Could be any of the VD's including Brenda.

2 spots which were not proved to be blood, just presumed to be. DNA matched 12 of 13 markers. Takes 25 matches to be conclusive. TESTS had to be faked, experts had to mislead jury into believing 12 of 13 means perfect match.

We don't know how he got in, if he got in, how or where he got to Danielle, where he took her, what he did.

All we know is SHE IS DEAD, and therefore HE IS GUILTY!

357 posted on 08/08/2002 10:17:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Mrs.Liberty; shezza
Yes..the Jury can watch Court TV and Larry King Live and the rest of the talk shows. Since DW has a TV in his cell, it should bring him great comfort knowing this...NOT!

Shezza, a huge "thank you" for posting the live trial transcripts. You have been amazing.

sw

358 posted on 08/08/2002 10:17:37 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Attention all FR Refugees who are lurking...PLEASE give SPEC a support ping......

SPEC...Thanks for your diligence...PING...

FresnoDA/frr
359 posted on 08/08/2002 10:18:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Mrs.Liberty
I think Brenda deduced, Mrs., because she knew all of the family's clothing.
360 posted on 08/08/2002 10:18:37 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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