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Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)
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| August 7, 2002
| Harriet Ryan
Posted on 08/06/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Jrabbit
Hi Jrabbit...thanks, good company here.
321
posted on
08/07/2002 11:08:52 AM PDT
by
Neenah
To: Jacy29
Did you just finish the MCF site?What is the MCF site, and how do I get there?
322
posted on
08/07/2002 11:09:32 AM PDT
by
Spunky
To: Neenah
WHY DIDN'T THE PD GO AFTER THE DAD????? Several reasons.
(1)From the very first moment they had their CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND, Diane Halfman , at their home to advise them on police procedure, questioning techniques, etc. Diane Halfman was also a CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND of the INVESTIGATORS, and so likely DIRECTED THEIR ACTIVITIES.
(2)On other threads is has been discussed that there is this wierd coincidence of DAMON having been in close proximity to many CHILD DISAPPERANCES, starting with the ADAM WALSH. (Yep, kid of John Walsh, of AMERICA's MOST WANTED). Yes, he was a teenager back then. So what. Child molester/killers don't suddenly hop into being at 50 like they would have you believe DW did.
Then Michael Nigrete, who just happened to be the kid of one of DAMON's CO-WORKERS. There have been several others.
Is it possible Damon was involved. Well, if you want statistics the fact that Damon was VERY NEAR something like 4-5 child kidnappings/deaths and DW was near only 1, well, YES.
To: demsux
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To: Neenah
Interestingly, I heard a forensic specialist on Greta Van Sustern's show, say that it was obvious to him that the Smart case was an inside job. That perpetrator had to know the inside of the house, had to know where to find the right girl, not only which room, but which bed that she slept in, and had to know family habits. He had no doubt in his mind that this was an inside job and that was the reason that it was handled so strangely.
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posted on
08/07/2002 11:11:33 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: Neenah
Thanks for posting your thoughts about Danielle. It helped me to think about the possible/probable abuse she had been experiencing in her own home by her parents or others. Made me very sad. I can't imagine DW being a party to it. He seems to be a kind person.
326
posted on
08/07/2002 11:12:41 AM PDT
by
nycgal
To: Eva
That perpetrator had to know the inside of the house, had to know where to find the right girl, not only which room, but which bed that she slept in, and had to know family habits. Same argument could apply in this case, as well.
327
posted on
08/07/2002 11:13:16 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: Spunky
What is the MCF site, and how do I get there? Millenium Children's Fund site.
The owner Daniel Pierce was invited to the Van Dam home when Danielle first disappeared. This website discusses what he found. The parents and PR firm invited him into the VD house. When he saw things and SAW THROUGH Things, the VD's no longer wanted him around.
Just type WWW.MCF.TV into your browser.
To: nycgal
Just wondering. Have you read the info on the MCF site?
To: UCANSEE2
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To: Spunky
331
posted on
08/07/2002 11:15:08 AM PDT
by
Neenah
To: shezza
Oops, Feldy's back on! Sorry. Showing photos of "just another day at the beach" on the Strand. Open doors, closed doors on MHs. Open curtains on some, closed curtains on others.
332
posted on
08/07/2002 11:15:17 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: shezza
When David gets back to the neighborhood, there are hundreds of vehicles, LE, media, no place to park. If he was guilty, why not "get out of Dodge"? Mexico is just 17 miles away. He could go to France. He came home.
333
posted on
08/07/2002 11:16:56 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: Eva
I agree !! But on the thread, you get shot down so bad for expressing that.
334
posted on
08/07/2002 11:17:35 AM PDT
by
Neenah
To: shezza
In comes Mr. Westerfield, and we're told no one was in the residence. We're being told the LE was being careful, not to trace, not to track. But look at this photo by Det. Morris. This is right where the laundry is. This walks to and from the trash, which is in the garage, and inside the residence. David was totally cooperative. He couldn't have been more cooperative. When Damon is cooperative it's okay. But when David was cooperatie, that was a suspicious circumstance.
335
posted on
08/07/2002 11:19:04 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: UCANSEE2
To: Neenah
What's on post #77 on that thread is most, but not all. Better to go to www.MCF.tv and see the whole banana.
To: shezza
Pic of neighborhood. Paul Huang's house. The hose was left out, not at all unusual. Susan L., it was not unusual to leave hose out. But here's the sinister evidence to which DAW returns. Among the most sinister is the laundry.
(Sits in witness chair): I wonder if I got a tape lift on my back right now if we'd find Miss Shen, or Mr. Holmes, or any of them?
338
posted on
08/07/2002 11:20:58 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: shezza
"He could go to France. He came home.'
Exactly right. He could have been gone for months, but he went home, as planned when he left.
To: the Deejay
He could have been gone for months...Not really. To disappear right when Danielle did would have triggered a nationwide manhunt.
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