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To: UCANSEE2; cyncooper
The drive time according to online MAPS is about 21 minutes, IN A CAR !

First, I came in the middle of this conversation and was just adding info that I personally checked and thought I used appropriate qualifiers in my language. That said, I did in fact assume that he drove from the RV to his home after he led the police there in his car because I thought he went there in his car with them following. Your right, I don't know which vehicle he used on either trip.

However, I would disagree that the the drive time in the RV would be be double the time in the car. Having driven one numerous times, drive times are about the same (even going straight through New York City Washington DC from personal experience ). Its the parking time that is extra.

I would however agree that it would take some extra time to close the doors and batten down things before leaving but not an additional 20 minutes, unless he had hookups or something to the house which doesn't seem likely. It could also take longer to back out but based on the testimony that he was able to leave so quickly when the property owner attempted to catch up to him I have the impression he leaves it in a posistion that he can readily leave.

So, I stand by my statement so far that he COULD have easily had time to stop on the way.

One last thing. It was my impression that most of that line of questioning (like was the driveway blocked etc) went to establishing whether Westerfield would have felt as if he was being detained by the police and if he did feel that way there might be a violation of his rights. I didn't think the questioning was designed to lay a foundation for a possible side trip so its use for determining such a conclusion may not be appropriate.

744 posted on 08/05/2002 10:46:06 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
First off, I apologize because I made the same dumb mistake I accuse others of doing. In a hurry to catch up, I glossed over several hundred replies, and then jumped to the end. I went back and read the last couple of posts. There yours was and I jumped in and reacted to what you said.

Now I feel like an idiot. I went back to read the posts you responded to and the one that was to, etc.

Apparently Cyncooper was talking about him driving to the MH in his SUV with the police following him. Then he drove back in the SUV but took a different route. Seems like this is when he was taking the police to show them the MH ? Or when he took them on the famous 'tour of the desert'.

Anyway, I was off base for overreacting and not even knowing the details of what was being discussed.

Please accept my apology.

745 posted on 08/05/2002 12:16:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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