[John Jamieson]

The van Dam's did lie under oath in many instances. There maybe other instances too, of course. I hope the judge is very specific when he talks about lieing and doesn't just leave it to the jury to figure out.

eg. Was Brenda in the shower, or playing peekaboo when Barbara got there?

I've thought that Neal maybe one of the "he"s and if so, he may have gone to the judge to fessup. The judge seems to have information about lying that we may not realize from just the inconsistant testimony.

[cyncooper]

The van Dam's did lie under oath in many instances.

I really don't see that they lied under oath. Damon can think Brenda was in the shower when she wasn't.

If they were lying wouldn't they try to get their story straight. It could be with two "girls night out" events the details get mixed up or that is what they really remembered.

I've said before the word "lie" is used too casually by some with the van Dams. I'll add now that Westerfield's lies and the things he did NOT tell the police are excused way too easily by the same group.

[I. Ben Hurt]

Another thing--If the garage door was left open by Denise trying to hear on her cell phone, before they left for Dads, the alarm system should have been blinking the entire time they were gone. Damon DIDN'T notice this? Brenda said she saw it as soon as she came in the door.

Which door did they use for the bladder problem dog? I missed it, I guess.