Frustrated Prosecutor Dusek Swats At Final Bug Expert: Westerfield's Soon Will BUG The Jury....

Court TV ^ | August 2, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[I. Ben Hurt]

I've said before the word "lie" is used too casually by some with the van Dams. I'll add now that Westerfield's lies and the things he did NOT tell the police are excused way too easily by the same group.

The lies told by LE in order to get a search warrant seem to have been disregarded.

[cyncooper]

The lies told by LE in order to get a search warrant seem to have been disregarded.

For instance?

It is not uncommon, at the beginning of an investigation, to have information that has not been verified or that later turns out to be incomplete or outright not true in a affidavit for search warrant. Different than deliberate deception. Has happened, God knows, in this country. But what in this case was a deliberate lie by LE?

[I. Ben Hurt]

Put these wthout the space I've added, around the phrase or word you want in italics: < I> < /I> Some people need more help than others. (grin)

[cyncooper]

Now we're even in our capabilities! Fun, huh?

[I. Ben Hurt]

I've got some questions this morning-- I have a lot more questions than answers. I'm thinking the dog was mostly housebroken except when ignored. My three Labs might potty in the utility room if they couldn't awaken me. My little Pomeranian (sleeps with me) will get in my face to get me awake and let me know one of the Labs needs to go out. She hears them better than I do. In fact, she's a better watch dog than the Labs as far as hearing unusual noises.

[cyncooper]

John, here is more info regarding the stains on the jacket and the presumptive test for blood. Testimony of Sean Soriano at the PH:

Q. Let's go back if we could. You mentioned the substrate control. What is that?

A. A substrate control is basically to test an item or fabric to make sure that the chemical presumptive test is not giving a false positive.

Q. What do you mean by that?

A. Meaning a positive result is given by a substance other than blood, the chemical presumptive test for blood.

Q. Are you using these substrate controls to allow a later analyst to determine if the jacket itself has something in it, as opposed to the blood staining, providing any later genetic information?

A. That is correct.

Q. Did you take these substrate controls from areas immediately adjacent to each of the stains?

A. Yes, I did.

[I. Ben Hurt]

For instance? You may certainly be right. I was relying on hearsay from these threads. I'm going to do more re-reading and if I find something to substantiate LE lied, I'll let you know.

[bvw]

I'll add now that Westerfield's lies and the things he did NOT tell the police

What lies? What did Westerfield not tell the police?

[I. Ben Hurt]

Now we're even in our capabilities! Fun, huh? ....Evidently not (even, I mean). I need to know how to start a new paragraph after the quote.

[cyncooper]

What lies? What did Westerfield not tell the police?

He lied about taking his MH straight from his camping trip to Sherman's place. He never told the police about drycleaning trip #1.

He told the police that Saturday afternoon when he went home to "find his wallet" that he found his side door unlocked. He never told the police about calling his son to check his house to make sure it was locked-----something the son complied with (and was with his mother, DW's ex-wife) before DW's return home Sat. afternoon. That's off the top of my head.

[cyncooper]

I need to know how to start a new paragraph after the quote.

Put your < P> after you close italics.

I see you were a long time lurker until recently. Me, too. Years and years. Even through impeachment and the election mess and 9/11, I saw so many eloquent Freepers express my thoughts so well I was satisfied to nod my head reassured I wasn't alone in my opinions.

But, like you, recently felt the urge to let my voice be heard.

[I. Ben Hurt]

I'll add now that Westerfield's lies and the things he did NOT tell the police What lies? What did Westerfield not tell the police?</>.....Those were Cyncooper's words that I posted BEFORE I learned how to do quotes in a different font. (Sorry)

[nycgal]

< P > without the spaces at start of paragraph

[bvw]

Those aren't lies, unless he specially stated that he did not go to the dry cleaners. A missed recollection, even a reasonable mistake in recollection is not a lie.

[bvw]

Roger wilco.

[cyncooper]

Those aren't lies, unless he specially stated that he did not go to the dry cleaners. A missed recollection, even a reasonable mistake in recollection is not a lie.

It is a lie. First of all, the first rendition of his trip is less than two hours after that trip. How would the police know to ask him if he went to the drycleaners first thing??? Dw is going to say, "and I didn't go to the drycleaners first before taking my MH back to High Valley"?

The police specifically asked him if he went anywhere between the end of the trip and Sherman's. Particularily in the Redden interview, later that day. Westerfield had numerous opportunities to tell it and didn't. He did tell Redden about trip #2 (black clothes drop-off).

The police went to the drycleaners to get the stuff with only ticket for trip #2 stuff and the drycleaners called them the next day or so to tell them about the additional bedding and jacket.

[demsux]

Paraphrased:

Nope, no drug usage last night. (DVD to LE for 17+ hours, while his daughter was missing). I would call that a DELIBERATE LIE. One which may have cost his daughter her life.

Nope, no one else accessed upstairs (same as above).

Nope, no unusual sexual behavior with others IN OUR HOME in the past (same as above).

These are examples of DELIBERATE DECEIT, as opposed to forgetting to mention stopping at the cleaners.

[bvw]

A missed recollection is not a lie. A whole pattern of missed recollections is another story, but there is not a enough of a pattern here. A coincidence, but no clear pattern. So, no, it is not a lie.

[John Jamieson]

Doesn't solve my problem. I want to see a test for human blood, not a presumptive test. This testing only shows that garment isn't covered with horseradish.

[John Jamieson]

DW has never testified under oath.

Also the tape we heard was edited per Dusek. How can you claim something was left out of a tape, that was edited. WE KNOW STUFF WAS CUT OUT! Means nothing.